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Post by kidcanada on Apr 29, 2012 22:55:43 GMT -5
I love everyone is so obsessed with Brock losing they completely ignore the effect of Cena winning. Close to the entire arena was behind him by match end. Its laughable the idea that this killed Brock's drawing power. It also goes against the blind assumption that paying fans across the board were disappointed, considering fans in the arena certainly didn't seem upset at the finish and even gave Cena a strong ovation afterward. If people wanna make Rocky analogies, this was akin to the main event of Rocky IV, where there were fans that came around to the hated underdog by the time the fight ended. Rocky IV didn't have to start the prelude to the next Rocky movie on live television the next night.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2012 22:55:50 GMT -5
Exactly. Brock destroyed Cena and then lost after being smacked in the head with a chain and slammed onto steel steps. I don't see how that is a "Russo" swerve at all. It was one of the most dramatic WWE main events in years. And not to sound like a dick, but when it comes down to it, I doubt WWE really cares about what people who openly admit to stealing their content think. "I streamed the show but I am outraged at what I saw"....I mean, do you see how utterly ridiculous posting something like that is? It's like me complaining because I illegally downloaded the newest Black Keys album and wasn't satisfied. I paid for the show. Do my comments count? I'll let you take a wild guess.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2012 22:57:12 GMT -5
It also goes against the blind assumption that paying fans across the board were disappointed, considering fans in the arena certainly didn't seem upset at the finish and even gave Cena a strong ovation afterward. If people wanna make Rocky analogies, this was akin to the main event of Rocky IV, where there were fans that came around to the hated underdog by the time the fight ended. Rocky IV didn't have to start the prelude to the next Rocky movie on live television the next night. And WWE doesn't have their top babyface lose the title and win it again within 40 minutes played out over several months.
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Post by DavidH on Apr 29, 2012 22:59:27 GMT -5
Ryback is Steve Wilkos on steroids. LAUGHING FOREVER! "You think you're a MAAAAN?!!!"
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Post by kobossy on Apr 29, 2012 23:07:33 GMT -5
You know what this was? This was OTL 2011 at Extreme Rules 2012. Cena gets decimated, and then comes back after a beating to win in 30 seconds. I'm just surprised that Jason, Dan and John are trying to defend this PPV when there was a lot of crap on it. There were 2 good matches, a couple good promos and the crowd was really hot. The rest was bad. Brock/Cena was completely ruined by that finish.
They are trying to obviously bring in the MMA fans by putting on a very MMA influenced match and getting the former UFC Heavyweight Champion on the roster. Well, I think they've just drove those fans away. Do you know why the UFC is kicking the ass of the wrestling industry? Because Dana White knows not to book like this.
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Post by George C on Apr 30, 2012 0:04:45 GMT -5
I don't like the fact that Cena has to come back and win the match after getting beat down the entire match. WWE let Cena lose to Lord Tensai on RAW with 3 or 4 million people watching but he has to win over Brock Lesnar with 200,000 people watching? Makes no sense. What's next? Batista coming back to beat down Super Cena only to lose next month? Cornette face is appropriate.
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Post by thebrodog on Apr 30, 2012 0:04:50 GMT -5
Soo let's see if I understand this?
Lord Tensai > John Cena > Brock Lesnar
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Post by carmichael on Apr 30, 2012 4:39:14 GMT -5
The arrogance on here is pretty funny. Amazing PPV. it would not have been that good had Brock squashed him. The IWC constantly think they always know best and its so boring in that they think they are all the best bookers in the world.
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Post by JJ on Apr 30, 2012 5:18:54 GMT -5
The arrogance on here is pretty funny. Amazing PPV. it would not have been that good had Brock squashed him. The IWC constantly think they always know best and its so boring in that they think they are all the best bookers in the world. Totally agree. While that ending was pretty wonky, the PPV as a whole was pretty damn good
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Post by hitmanmike1 on Apr 30, 2012 5:54:27 GMT -5
unless Brock comes out on RAW tomorrow night and MURDERS!! John Cena, there is no more Value left in Brock Lesnar I agree! Liked the PPV till the end. I had a bad feeling that the WWE would do something like this having Cena go over on Lensar despite getting his ass kicked for most of the match. You would think the WWE would learn on the Goldberg disaster and book Lensar strong but nope. If Brock doesn't destroy Cena tonight than Brock means nothing anymore in drawing power. Vince wonders why the UFC is kicking the WWE's ass is because of this.
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Post by yesiamaduck on Apr 30, 2012 6:26:32 GMT -5
I think if all you care about is weapon and blood then you'll love this show but it wasn't GREAT. Kane Vs Randy Orton - Loads of mediocre brawling with the exact same finish as the dark match at the smackdown tapings I attended so I really felt flat after the ending. Where does Kane go from here? Did Orton really need to go over Kane? Can we just have Kane as an indestructible monster or someone that'll help new guys out PLEASE as opposed to feeding him to established stars which is totally pointless. *1/2 Brodus Clay Vs Dolph Ziggler - I love Brodus but this was pointless and I really hate the way Dolph is being used, but anything with Dolph selling is automatically given half a star so half a star is what it'll get. 1/2* Tables Match: Big Show Vs Cody Rhodes - This match wasn't anything special but I really loved the ending with Big Shows 'fail' face. It was really funny and creative & when Cody realised what happened it was all the better & the way Show obliterated Cody post match but Cody going off on his own without aid sort of put Big Show in a heel capacity and Rhodes as more of a face, double turn coming up? * Daniel Bryan Vs Sheamus -> This was just a straight up good match with some creative booking for the 1st and 2nd falls which leaves the possibility of a rematch open because Bryan can claim he only got beaten once (due to the nature of the first fall) and the was some really good stuff here, but it's still not the classic I know they can deliver on. ***1/2 CM Punk Vs Chris Jericho -> Some truly awesome stuff here and some real high moments, especially the bit involving CM Punks sister, no it still isn't a classic though as the majority of the first 10 - 15minutes sort of fell a bit flat. *** Nikki Bella Vs Layla -> Yes I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't Kharma, however Layla was my second guess and after a while I realised I was glad to see her back, she was always one of my favourite divas of the current lot before she got hurt, she can work a match & is fit + has charisma.... something most of the other Divas lack, she is the complete package and should be the face of the Divas. Match was okay for a Divas match, then again after months of Kelly Kelly matches I'm just glad to see someone who can run the ropes. 1/2* Brock Lesnar Vs John Cena -> Bit vexed Cena won but really enjoyed the story the match told, and it had blood & quite a lot of it, something we haven't seen for 4 years. I liked the way Lesnar OWNED Cena and his downfall was his over confidence as opposed to Cena being booked like God. The end shoot was good and Cena actually SOLD the fact he'd been in a brutal match as opposed to just play fighting with some man in pants which is nice, Cena hinted in time off which might be just what the doctor ordered (seriously he must be seriously banged up on this schedule + it gives him a chance to become less stale) keep him off until their rematch at Summerslam. ***1/2 It was an okay show, the first hour was pretty much totally disposable and the 2nd half failed to deliver any classics but was a very solid block of television, oh yeah Goldberg won a match. 6.5/10
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Post by carmichael on Apr 30, 2012 6:35:28 GMT -5
unless Brock comes out on RAW tomorrow night and MURDERS!! John Cena, there is no more Value left in Brock Lesnar I agree! Liked the PPV till the end. I had a bad feeling that the WWE would do something like this having Cena go over on Lensar despite getting his ass kicked for most of the match. You would think the WWE would learn on the Goldberg disaster and book Lensar strong but nope. If Brock doesn't destroy Cena tonight than Brock means nothing anymore in drawing power. Vince wonders why the UFC is kicking the WWE's ass is because of this. Is the UFC kicking WWE's ass? WWE just did 1.3m buys and the UFC doesnt have the multiple revenue streams that the WWE does. Yeah sure on PPV the UFC is winning but thats not the only way both companies make money
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Post by thebrodog on Apr 30, 2012 7:50:16 GMT -5
I thought the ppv was awesome. I just hope they know what they are doing with Lesnar. Here's hope tonight he destroys someone. I would have him and Cena in a rematch where Lesnar destroys an injured John Cena sending him away for awhile versus Cena leaving on holiday.
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Post by Vincent Kennedy McSmark on Apr 30, 2012 8:08:32 GMT -5
I ended up not watching it after all but there were some good, long matches (it seems) with really bad booking. AKA what WWE has been known for since the Invasion. Hard to really get angry about it at this point.
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Post by cookiebot on Apr 30, 2012 8:26:50 GMT -5
I thought for a a "thrown together" PPV, it wasn't bad. However, there were some things that bothered me: 1) divas match- why bother? It was nothing different from a regular TV match (in that it sucked), and if it's not going to be special, why put it on the PPV? 2) Along the same thread- TWO squash matches. Why? Despite what some internet fans believe, the roster is NOT depleted. There are a ton of great mid-carders there who could steal the show (or at least keep me awake), and it's got to be heartbreaking as a trained professional to watch some new roid monster take up a valuable spot when they (again) aren't even built up in a storyline to warrant that spot on the roster (i.e. Show/Rhodes). 3) The ending- seemed slapped-on. I know Lesnar can't go for 1/2 hour but it just seemed so rushed to me. I think the ending would have been better if Cena had to be carried out of the ring, and then made his "vacation" speech on Raw. It would have made Lesnar look more badass. Oh, and does anyone actually believe Cena will be off TV after the Nexus debacle?
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