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Post by Jack Raines on Jul 31, 2015 1:40:09 GMT -5
The "he's an old man from the South so it's no big deal for him to be a racist" excuse doesn't fly with me.
I'm a white guy from Mississippi, and my parents would've given me a hell of a spanking if I ever used the N-word as a kid, I was always taught that it was wrong.
And my late grandma who was born in 1917 was best friends with a black lady and also wouldn't allow anything racist to be said.
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Post by rinaldo on Aug 3, 2015 18:56:37 GMT -5
In the old days the promoters themselves used to call their black or hispanic wrestlers racial slurs. Nowadays people acting like that gets reprimated and that's the way it should be.
But no way Hogan won't be back in WWE one day.
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Post by deezy on Aug 3, 2015 22:49:13 GMT -5
Surprised no one tries to bring Flair down for Teddy Longs story of him dropping N bombs to his face.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 7:45:51 GMT -5
Surprised no one tries to bring Flair down for Teddy Longs story of him dropping N bombs to his face. Flair isn't known outside of wrestling. Therefore not a celebrity that's above us common folk worth taking down. Its expected for wrestlers to be racist masochistic low brows, but Hogan is an 80s icon right up there with David Hasslehoff. That and he had his own reality show making him more famous.
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Post by Billy Kidman's Jorts on Aug 4, 2015 10:02:11 GMT -5
In the old days the promoters themselves used to call their black or hispanic wrestlers racial slurs. Nowadays people acting like that gets reprimated and that's the way it should be. Flair and Piper have told stories about being the only white guys in many promotions and all the fans and wrestlers would call them very derogatory names and often were attacked because they were white. They often laugh about this and think nothing of it. Now if a black or hispanic wrestler hears that a white person said a derogatory comment about their race in private, they make a big deal about and act like it is the end of the world.
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Post by deezy on Aug 4, 2015 11:57:45 GMT -5
In the old days the promoters themselves used to call their black or hispanic wrestlers racial slurs. Nowadays people acting like that gets reprimated and that's the way it should be. Flair and Piper have told stories about being the only white guys in many promotions and all the fans and wrestlers would call them very derogatory names and often were attacked because they were white. They often laugh about this and think nothing of it. Now if a black or hispanic wrestler hears that a white person said a derogatory comment about their race in private, they make a big deal about and act like it is the end of the world. maybe because Flair and Piper were admittedly RACEBAITING FOR HEEL HEAT, I don't know what world you live in, but goddamn is it warped.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 12:05:55 GMT -5
I haven't seen Japanese wrestling, but I always hear its about white foreigners making the crowd angry. Like white = bad guy.
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Post by Billy Kidman's Jorts on Aug 4, 2015 12:21:20 GMT -5
I don't doubt Piper did and you need to back that claim up with evidence also, but in Flair's book he pretty much says he was the only white guy in some caribean islands and basically was hated and was lucky to get out alive because he was white heel. He didn't say anything about race baiting.
All people if you are going to be a minority at some work place you might face some racism. Just suck it up. If you don't like it just work or stay with people that are like you.
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Post by deezy on Aug 4, 2015 12:31:51 GMT -5
I don't doubt Piper did and you need to back that claim up with evidence also, but in Flair's book he pretty much says he was the only white guy in some caribean islands and basically was hated and was lucky to get out alive because he was white heel. He didn't say anything about race baiting. All people if you are going to be a minority at some work place you might face some racism. Just suck it up. If you don't like it just work or stay with people that are like you. Pipers first big angles were making fun of Mexicans. He said it himself, but lets pretend that's not true because it fits your narrative. Also Flair was pretty stiff in his words with JYD and for some reason would target Freebirds 2 manager Robert Marley. And wait...the guy trying to equate cracker to other racial epithets and claiming systemic racism is a hoax are now telling minorities to suck it up? You mean you are abandoning your "reverse racism is just as bad narrative" gimmick? Or just throwing out anything to further prove how much you just don't know.
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Post by Billy Kidman's Jorts on Aug 4, 2015 14:33:21 GMT -5
Yes. Have minorities ever heard of words can't hurt you. While over 90% of all interacial violent crime is black on white and there at least 20,000 black on white rapes a year and virtually none the other way around. That hurts a lot more. Call me what ever you want but just don't physically harm me. That kind of racial violence is a lot worse than calling someone a "nigger".
Seriously why do minorites want to live with white people so badly. Tens of millions risk there lives every year to live in systemic racism. Seriously though if there is systemic racism, Asians didn't get the memo. They do better in America than whites.
Also your Flair comment had nothing to do with his time the caribean that is in his book. Piper also claimed the fans in Hawaii used to call him a Haole (that is like "nigger" for white people in Hawaii). So he wrote the "Great Haole" on his jacket.
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Post by deezy on Aug 4, 2015 15:10:12 GMT -5
Yes. Have minorities ever heard of words can't hurt you. While over 90% of all interacial violent crime is black on white and there at least 20,000 black on white rapes a year and virtually none the other way around. That hurts a lot more. Call me what ever you want but just don't physically harm me. That kind of racial violence is a lot worse than calling someone a "nigger". Seriously why do minorites want to live with white people so badly. Tens of millions risk there lives every year to live in systemic racism. Seriously though if there is systemic racism, Asians didn't get the memo. They do better in America than whites. Really? You're going to use "Go back to where you can from"? You're going to double down on this aren't you? And you're using rapes on whites to back up what? You're inherent racism? Good job, using lynch mob mentality to out your fully fleshed out racist gimmick. Nice number, too bad it's flat out made up. Because rape charges reported on white frat boys are far more than your made up number on black on white rape allegations, charges and guilty verdicts but lets focus in your made up numbers from a conservative and flat out racist website you viewed to back up your inane ramblings. You make me laugh and feel sorry for you. You're either naive or full of anger. I can't tell which it is, probably both. Ignorance makes a fool out of many a man.
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Post by rinaldo on Aug 4, 2015 15:35:10 GMT -5
Anyone ever heard about Col. DeBeers? Check his gimmick out.
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Post by Billy Kidman's Jorts on Aug 4, 2015 16:21:47 GMT -5
Nice number, too bad it's flat out made up. Because rape charges reported on white frat boys are far more than your made up number on black on white rape allegations, charges and guilty verdicts but lets focus in your made up numbers from a conservative and flat out racist website you viewed to back up your inane ramblings. You make me laugh and feel sorry for you. You're either naive or full of anger. I can't tell which it is, probably both. Ignorance makes a fool out of many a man. Here is the numbers from a conservative webstie that they got from the FBI with links to back it up. conservative-headlines.com/2014/12/the-truth-about-interracial-rape/ (who else is going to post this but a conservative site? Stating this even facts to back it up is extremely taboo) Now can you show me the rates at which white frat boys rape black women? It might make the news when frat boys commit rape a black woman because it is so rare and they know can make money off of it compared to poor areas (The Duke Lacrosse team were found innocent with overwhelming evidence). Just like when a white girl goes missing it is a big deal because the media knows it make more money off of it when black kids go missing all the time and no one cares. Trust me I'm not naive I have lived a good portion of my life in Baton Rouge, La. This is what I saw every day and why I left www.youtube.com/watch?v=e52-Vx5PMCQ
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Post by deezy on Aug 4, 2015 16:33:26 GMT -5
Nice number, too bad it's flat out made up. Because rape charges reported on white frat boys are far more than your made up number on black on white rape allegations, charges and guilty verdicts but lets focus in your made up numbers from a conservative and flat out racist website you viewed to back up your inane ramblings. You make me laugh and feel sorry for you. You're either naive or full of anger. I can't tell which it is, probably both. Ignorance makes a fool out of many a man. Here is the numbers from a conservative webstie that they got from the FBI with links to back it up. conservative-headlines.com/2014/12/the-truth-about-interracial-rape/ (who else is going to post this but a conservative site? Stating this even facts to back it up is extremely taboo) Now can you show me the rates at which white frat boys rape? It might make the news when frat boys commit rape because it is so rare and they know can make money off of it compared to poor areas (they are often found innocent most of the time to). Just like when a white girl goes missing it is a big deal because the media knows it make more money off of it when black kids go missing all the time and no one cares. Posting conservative links just proved my point. You keep jumping point to point and creating tangents that only dilute this discussion because you have jack shit to back up you're original statement which was stupid to begin with and your subsequent other posts just outed your racist views. Sticks and stones shit, but when people kill others while using those words and create legislation and enforce culturally biased rules....that's different one would think.....at least someone with empathy and with some common fucking sense.
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Post by Billy Kidman's Jorts on Aug 4, 2015 16:48:42 GMT -5
What was my origianal statment? That name calling isn't as bad as actual physical violence? I stand by that. If people are so hung up on a word they are weak (I dont' give a shit about the history and yada yada yada). Show me links of any a group of white people hurting some one and calling them a nigger recenlty. I have many videos of the other way around from the past week if you would like to see them.
Culturally biased rules? Like Affirmative Action?
Also the "Go back to where you came from" comment. I never said that, I just asking why so many people risk theri lives in order to live with white people since we such horrible racist. I didn't say anybody needs to go back where they came from.
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