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Post by thelaw on May 22, 2015 6:31:25 GMT -5
A show called "Voice of Wrestling" is claiming that Dixie accidently forwarded an email to DA where she called the network "dummies." If true, this is reminiscent of the Vince Russo incident last year where he emailed Mike Johnson instead of Mike Tenay. Both wrongly-send emails could very well eliminated any chance of TNA staying with a broadcast partner. Show talks about the email starting at 35:40. www.voicesofwrestling.com/2015/05/21/destination-americatna-nxt-takeover-bouncing-around-japan-more/
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Post by Christian Small on May 22, 2015 11:15:05 GMT -5
Well TNA has posted a statement threatening legal action as it's defamation. Billy Corgan has also said it's a "sloppy angle" with Meltzer being worked.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 11:45:04 GMT -5
What Meltzer wrote doesn't even come close to meeting the standard for defamation in a civil case, so it's not surprising he's basically laughed at the threat.
Also, he claims to have been exchanging emails with Dixie about the matter, so if it comes out that she is the one giving him info it would look bad for her and if it turns out she was trying to "work" him, it would look even worse considering all the real issues the company has been having.
I kind of hope they do file a lawsuit and it doesn't get tossed immediately, though. The idea of a Dixie Carter deposition and discovery where potential DA/TNA emails are released would be all kinds of hilarious.
From Meltzer's end, the only relevant emails that the court would allow are ones with who he was talking to about the cancellation, and he's already said his source was Dixie.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 16:49:31 GMT -5
Does Meltzer work angles? I'm not really familiar with him.
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Post by Above Average Mike Sanders on May 22, 2015 21:53:52 GMT -5
Does Meltzer work angles? I'm not really familiar with him. That's understandable, on the LAW site, yup...
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 22:49:37 GMT -5
My personal theory is this is setting up a Corgan vs Meltzer showdown.
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Post by thelaw on May 22, 2015 23:31:00 GMT -5
Should be a tag team match. Corgan & Dixie against Meltzer & Alvarez in a Company vs. Company match. Winners get the others' company. Too bad becoming the owner of TNA is not that attractive.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 23:40:22 GMT -5
The DNA of TNA.
So catchy.
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Post by Milky on May 25, 2015 7:54:34 GMT -5
I find the business side of professional wrestling fairly uninteresting, but one thing that does seem glaring after recent discussion are two comments made by Dave Meltzer and John Pollock. Meltzer said on air that professional wrestling companies can't survive anymore without television. But John always says that revenue from ads for professional wrestling are negligible.
So what is it?
To me, I think the whole business model of professional wrestling needs to be blown up (or perhaps taken back to its roots), at least for the independents. I have no idea what kind of business Lucha Underground are doing but their presentation is so different that maybe they are able to get ad revenue from their shows. But, if not, then maybe non-televised touring is the way to go to earn your big bucks? Cut the costs down as much as you can and go heavy on the promotion of shows coming to different cities. Then film a bunch of television in one place again, like they're already doing with the Temple, which is their home base.
I've got Prince Puma coming to my hometown in Europe and that's a big draw to me. If LU promoted touring I think it would be successful, so long as they don't oversaturate a market. I think it has greater appeal than just the Latin communities too.
Merchandise should also be pushed harder, though for LU it seems like most fans have their gear.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 11:22:32 GMT -5
I find the business side of professional wrestling fairly uninteresting, but one thing that does seem glaring after recent discussion are two comments made by Dave Meltzer and John Pollock. Meltzer said on air that professional wrestling companies can't survive anymore without television. But John always says that revenue from ads for professional wrestling are negligible. So what is it? To me, I think the whole business model of professional wrestling needs to be blown up (or perhaps taken back to its roots), at least for the independents. I have no idea what kind of business Lucha Underground are doing but their presentation is so different that maybe they are able to get ad revenue from their shows. But, if not, then maybe non-televised touring is the way to go to earn your big bucks? Cut the costs down as much as you can and go heavy on the promotion of shows coming to different cities. Then film a bunch of television in one place again, like they're already doing with the Temple, which is their home base. I've got Prince Puma coming to my hometown in Europe and that's a big draw to me. If LU promoted touring I think it would be successful, so long as they don't oversaturate a market. I think it has greater appeal than just the Latin communities too. Merchandise should also be pushed harder, though for LU it seems like most fans have their gear. Ad revenue and rights fees are different things in reference to the points Dave and I have made. A company that is simply touring based just cannot survive at that rate. Television rights fees are the key. If Jarrett gets television it will only be viewed based on what the network in question is willing to pay them. Conversely, a network needs a purpose to be paying some rights fees for wrestling program, which is going to bring you less advertising revenue than a non-wrestling show doing the same audience and that's the major handicap with pro wrestling programming. The reality is that touring, even at a cheap rate, is not going to yield a high profit against the costs of touring and is a major reason TNA has largely stopped touring. ROH is offset by their broadcaster owning the promotion and ROH without Sinclair just couldn't work and is the reason they sold the company to Sinclair.
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Post by thelaw on May 25, 2015 15:58:57 GMT -5
To me, I think the whole business model of professional wrestling needs to be blown up (or perhaps taken back to its roots), at least for the independents. I have no idea what kind of business Lucha Underground are doing but their presentation is so different that maybe they are able to get ad revenue from their shows. But, if not, then maybe non-televised touring is the way to go to earn your big bucks? Cut the costs down as much as you can and go heavy on the promotion of shows coming to different cities. Then film a bunch of television in one place again, like they're already doing with the Temple, which is their home base. I've got Prince Puma coming to my hometown in Europe and that's a big draw to me. If LU promoted touring I think it would be successful, so long as they don't oversaturate a market. I think it has greater appeal than just the Latin communities too. Merchandise should also be pushed harder, though for LU it seems like most fans have their gear. LU cannot stay as-is. El Rey's audience barely registers: way under 100,000. Unimas is a couple hundred thousand. Cost of production is way too high. Ad sales are way low. TV tapings were free. No concessions to sell merchandise. Those t-shirts you see on tv were probably worn by people who made the most noise when LU employees asked the crowd, "who wants a free t-shirt?". On hot days, they were even giving people something to drink for free. No tours have been announced. Whole promotion is now on hiatus with no guarantee of any return. There was even a rumor that the "Temple" might have already been dismantled. Right now, LU is trying to get onto the bigger Spanish networks in the U.S. and Mexico. There was another rumor that if there is a 2nd season that the tapings would be from Texas.
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Post by dextermorgan on May 25, 2015 16:31:47 GMT -5
Dave went on an awesome TNA rant on WOR this past Saturday. Subscribers should go out of their way to check it out.
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Post by darlotto99 on May 25, 2015 19:52:38 GMT -5
I think Dixie's parents will end up selling the spare parts of TNA like the roaster, tape library and what ever else is left of the company to the Jarrett's and it will become GFW after DA Is done with TNA. Maybe Jeff has a better chance of getting a TV deal if the Carter's are out of the picture. Maybe Jeff takes 51% of the company and the Carter's become minority owners and Dixie is forced out especially if she was the actual source of Dave's reporting. If true a deal with Jeff needs to happen right away before any of the media outlets pick up on the story .
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Post by thelaw on May 25, 2015 20:12:32 GMT -5
But would Jeff want the baggage associated with TNA? Let's face it. That brand is not seen in the best of light right now. I am sure Jarrett would have to take over the existing financial obligations of TNA, which is probably not trivial. Biggest reason to want TNA in the first place was their TV deal. That might not even exist anymore by September, so why bother?
Here is the Meltzer rant from Saturday.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 20:28:07 GMT -5
Jeff can start his own company again. TNA might have been around for a decade, but its got a taint. Its still a name, but even the name has a taint on it since its TNA. I know I'm the juvinille here bringing it up, but its always been a sticking point for me having a kid.
If Jarrett bought TNA, people would tune in a week and then tune out. It would still be the same people and even if he started a new company that new company might have a lot of TNA's people if it collapses. I have a feeling Jarrett will fill any new company with new local guys. I'm not objecting to that. I've seen TNA 10 years. I can't keep watching the same guys going no where.
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