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Post by deezy on Oct 8, 2015 16:07:42 GMT -5
She has the workrate down, she has a kid friendly gimmick, she has a connection with the younger demographic and already has super fans. Lets face it, as soon as Vince sees her and the connectio she his with his biggest money maker, he's going to see dollar signs and she'll be the number one priority in the Divas/Women's division for a long time.
John Shena
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Post by hitmanmatt on Oct 8, 2015 16:58:57 GMT -5
I'd rather her be the 1st Bayley, but I get your point. Not necessarily a bad thing
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Post by deezy on Oct 8, 2015 17:26:16 GMT -5
I don't see it as a bad thing (the guy is my av). I just wonder out loud if there would be an online backlash as soon as it looks like the company is behind her.
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Post by Zekey on Oct 8, 2015 17:44:49 GMT -5
I think shes better today, than Cena was at WM 21. Kids love her, why not be the next John Cena? I'm done setting restrictions on what female WWE talent can do/be.
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Post by RKing85 on Oct 8, 2015 22:06:03 GMT -5
26 too. Not young young, but not old either. They can get 10 years out of her (remember, in the WWE, diva's don't last as long as male wrestlers)
I've heard people say if she wants to, and she has the longevity, she could do more make a wishes than Cena.
And you know the WWE is all over that shit.
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Post by T Anthony Auld on Oct 8, 2015 23:05:17 GMT -5
As long as the current "regime" doesn't make her the next (Virgin) Molly Holly, then I see no problem with that. In fact her whole look (ring gear) is very marketable.
Never though in 2015 that tassels would be back in style.
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Post by Christian Small on Oct 9, 2015 1:41:32 GMT -5
To be honest I feel the divas need that kind of a big star/focus on them. Outside of Sasha they don't really have that big star and even Sasha isn't treated like that on the main roster. I think Bayley also has the benefit of having the hardcore male fans love her because of her work rate, something Cena didn't have when he was first pushed to the stars.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 7:19:21 GMT -5
John Cena has a lot of things working for him. USA, giant muscles, good guy, the kids, the marine tie in. Bayley has family, good girl-ism, the kids. They're both good people.
Bayley is more of a simpleton or fun babyface. I'd say she's the female version of Eugene that isn't full blown. Bayley is a role model for girls and kids. I hope she never changes, because she's rare and WWE will taint her. She'll be the virgin, she'll be Eugene, she'll do a Paige turn. NXT is this nice little bubble where Bayley and Tyler Breeze can train talent and be underrated even if they get to the top of their bubble.
Auska is the next Samoa Joe. Only think is Auska doesn't have people to match her. Big stiff girl working with the flowers she gets put in there with. Kudos you sloppy stiff. Make everyone look bad. I'm pretty sure it should be spelled Auska from how they're pronouncing her name. Like auger and not aguer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 7:26:37 GMT -5
As long as the current "regime" doesn't make her the next (Virgin) Molly Holly, then I see no problem with that. In fact her whole look (ring gear) is very marketable. Never though in 2015 that tassels would be back in style. Women's wrestling is the 80s now. Flair's daughter, Hart's niece, Snooka's kid. Tassels, bright colors, headlocks, arm drags, double axe handles, submission holds, tree of woes, wrestling is real, so real you can make a bridge out of your opponent across the ropes. I'm waiting for someone to bust out an atomic drop to cement it.
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Post by thebenjamin on Oct 9, 2015 11:05:26 GMT -5
As long as Vince is in charge I dont see how any woman will be pushed as a star. Just look at how quickly they've made Sasha Banks just another wrestler
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Post by deezy on Oct 9, 2015 12:49:04 GMT -5
Vince wouldn't want a serious money maker for a new demographic? That doesn't make sense. You could be a bigoted misogynist all you want, but you wouldn't be an absolute moron and forego losing money because you have these beliefs. McMahon is a businessman first and foremost. Never act like he wouldn't push the shit out of anything because he's alledgedly this and that.
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Post by Christian Small on Oct 9, 2015 12:58:08 GMT -5
Because you know he didn't push Lita or Trish at all while they were there. This is the same guy who let Sable and Chyna be huge stars as well. I think Vince is smart enough to know when he can make money off someone and get behind them to do so, regardless of gender.
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Post by thebenjamin on Oct 9, 2015 15:18:25 GMT -5
This is the same guy that was disgusted by women fighting in MMA. I like Bayley but I dont see how she has any more potential than Banks. I have zero faith in this writing staff/Vince to make a serious women's division
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Post by deezy on Oct 9, 2015 15:58:07 GMT -5
A CM Punk tale isn't exactly gospel truth, still. Businessman first, lets not forget women's hardcore matches because his big star wanted to do one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2015 16:53:55 GMT -5
Seeing the big introductions for both women made it feel awkward and forced. I remember a Thursday Thunder match where Stevie Ray and Lex Luger got a Michael Buffer intro when neither man was at the height of their career or anywhere near the top.
I saw the 30 minute iron man and it was a good match, but I think any 30 minute investment is good. It made both women look good. In fact all the matches made each person look good. Except the Auska match, it was designed for her and her alone to be dominant. Even Brock vs Show, show got his spots in looked good. Kofi vs Brock, Kofi got in some flips and some impressive maneuvers, then Brock killed him.
NXT is good at making everybody look good win or lose. WWE isn't. WWE always exposes people to put them where they want them on the card. Main eventers have boring matches to accentuate something in the mid card and give it more meaning.
I have no faith in Sasha. I don't understand the love she gets, but I haven't seen a lot of NXT. She's the women's wrestler I've seen the most in NXT. She's not just another wrestler, she's shorter and limited. What she can do looks like it takes a lot of effort on the other person's part to make her look good. Sasha's whole facade makes me think she's so unmarketable they gotta doll her up with hair extensions, purple hair dye, bling and those goofy glasses. Then I wonder everyone else is flashy and colorful, what do I have against her?
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