Post by Michael savemgs G on May 4, 2012 12:28:00 GMT -5
Forrest Griffin vs (Prime) Ken Shamrock Comparison:
SUBS: draw
HANDS: Forrest Griffin
CHIN: SHAMROCK (Ken never got KO'd standing until he was well past his prime. Watch the Frye fights and see the shots Ken takes.
GNP: draw
TAKEDOWNS: SHAMROCK
TDD Shamrock
QUICKNESS:Shamrock
SUBS: draw
HANDS: Forrest Griffin
CHIN: SHAMROCK (Ken never got KO'd standing until he was well past his prime. Watch the Frye fights and see the shots Ken takes.
GNP: draw
TAKEDOWNS: SHAMROCK
TDD Shamrock
QUICKNESS:Shamrock
I happen to believe that a prime Ken Shamrock would pose a serious threat to ANYBODY that has ever competed.
Say what you want about Ken personally and make fun of him and his ability to perform at his current age and at his current stage of physical deterioration, but a prime Ken Shamrock was no joke, and he would've posed a legitimate threat to anybody
but lets move on.
Say what you want about Ken personally and make fun of him and his ability to perform at his current age and at his current stage of physical deterioration, but a prime Ken Shamrock was no joke, and he would've posed a legitimate threat to anybody
but lets move on.
If Shamrock in his Prime stands his best chance getting a win over any top 15 fighter it would be against Griffin, who's not great off his back, not great at creating scrambles, has very little KO power, and has suspect TD defense. However, Griffin is larger, has better movement, is a better striker, has cardio for days, and has NEVER lost by sub. I think he can try to do what Tito did to Griffin and work a takedown-to-ground-and-pound game on him.
Ken was great at quickly getting inside on strikers (Pat Smith/Bas Rutten/Maurice Smith); he had powerful, explosive TD's, be it from the clinch with body-lock TD's (Pat Smith/Bas Rutten/Manabu Yamada/etc), throws (Ryushi Yanagisawa/Katsuomi Inagaki), or shots (Bas Rutten/Maurice Smith/Brian Johnston); he had incredible positioning and a suffocating top game, considered by Maurice Smith to be the strongest fighter he ever fought, and Smith was on the mat with both Mark Coleman and Kevin Randleman; his submissions are legendary, and contrary to the ignorant belief of a lot of Sherdoggers, he was much more than just leg locks; his striking is extremely underrated, the proof being in his Pancrase fights where he outstruck Bas Rutten and Maurice Smith, showcased great knees against Yoshiki Takahashi, and great kicks against Masakatsu Funaki.
Height 6 ft 0 in (1.83 m)
Weight 245 lb (111 kg; 17.5 st) (peak)
Division Heavyweight & Light Heavyweight
Reach 66.5 in (169 cm)
Style Shootfighting
Stance Orthodox
Fighting out of Reno, Nevada, U.S.
Team Lion's Den
Teacher(s) Masakatsu Funaki
Years active 1993–present (MMA)
Height 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m)
Weight 205 lb (93.0 kg; 14.6 st)
Division Light Heavyweight & Heavyweight
Reach 77 in (196 cm)
Stance Orthodox
Fighting out of Las Vegas, Nevada
Team Throwdown Training Center & Xtreme Couture
Rank Black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu under Robert Drysdale[1]
Years active 2001–present
