Post by groovyphoenix on Aug 17, 2017 8:12:30 GMT -5
Interesting predictions, however your ad libbing stories certainly not my taste, You center the show a lot around Corbin, they made him lose the MiTB because it was a distraction and maybe just maybe they realized he was not ready. He's big, he's 7 foot, he's a lone wolf he's a big mean dude... That bores the shit out of me. I just don't get him well I get him, I just don't give two figs about the guy though. He's a shitty heel, he's not a face I could care about and frankly I'd prefer he left in the darkness.
As for the rest of the card, you're bang on in saying "Why should I care?" 4 hours of pure unadulterated drivel. The only match that might be semi decent in the bunch? Natalya vs the gal of glow! Other then that, The Uso's vs New Day, these are the two matches that might be decent and I'll call a black horse in the race and say Natalya pulls it off for her first title.
New Day retains.
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Post by Christian Small on Aug 17, 2017 9:58:57 GMT -5
I was sure that the cash in was going to happen here and now that's seemingly not a choice I'm interested in how they'll book the WWE title match. I was all aboard on the Nakamura winning and then being cashed in on but now I'm with John and see Jinder retaining somehow here and Nakamura winning further down the road.
Post by rocketking on Aug 17, 2017 11:37:38 GMT -5
Any time a world title match isn't the main event, it feels ripe for a schmozzy ending. I know it's a little different when there's two world titles - one of them can't be the main event by definition. I wouldn't be surprised if Jinder escapes with the belt (either a cheap win or a DQ), and Nakamura completely wastes him afterwards. This would also explain why they eliminated Money in the Bank from the equation on Tuesday night.
As for the hype surrounding the card, I can't remember the last time I was as genuinely excited for a match as I am for the main event. It's going to be great, and there's so much intrigue as far as who is going to win and also who is going to take the fall. I think Brock retains, but I'm not as confident about that as I was a month ago.
Also, despite opinions on the buildup, I think Styles/Owens will be great (even if there's a less-than-clean finish coming), both women's matches could be pretty good, Usos/New Day have been putting on good matches consistently, and the cruisers will be solid at worst.
Post by rocketking on Aug 18, 2017 12:02:56 GMT -5
My “official” picks…
Brock Lesnar d. Roman Reigns, Samoa Joe and Braun Strowman: As I stated above, I have no idea who wins this and I’m pretty excited about that. I’m going with Brock because of how hard Heyman is selling that he’s definitely going to lose. Also, I would be shocked if WWE would give Brock another pass to go to UFC when it could compromise his Wrestlemania season availability.
Shinsuke Nakamura d. Jinder Mahal: I’ve been flip-flopping on this, but I’ll go with Nakamura winning so Jinder can win it back in India and we then pretend that neither title change ever happened.
AJ Styles d. Kevin Owens: An Owens/Shane match is coming, which means AJ wins this one. Baron Corbin d. John Cena: This one comes down to whether this is a John Cena “storyline” match or an “attraction” match. I’ll pick Corbin because they’re getting dangerously close to burying him at this point, and I don’t think that’s the plan.
Naomi d. Natalya: This feels like they just want to put on the best match possible while they’re in a holding pattern.
Alexa Bliss d. Sasha Banks: I still think Alexa will retain up until they’re ready to go with Nia (or Asuka).
Finn Balor d. Bray Wyatt: The Demon doesn’t lose.
Big Cass d. Big Show: Meh.
Randy Orton d. Rusev: Also meh.
Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins d. Sheamus and Cesaro: If they don’t win, what the hell have we been watching for the past few weeks.
The Usos d. The New Day: They suddenly made a big deal about the New Day “lineup” for this match. I can’t explain it, but that makes me think they’re going to lose.
Akira Tozawa d. Neville: I can picture a world where they flip the title back to Neville, but I’ll go with Tozawa retaining because it’s on the kickoff.
The Hardy Boyz and Jason Jordan d. The Miztourage: I only know this is happening because Wikipedia says so. When in doubt, pick the babyfaces on the kickoff show.
Last Edit: Aug 18, 2017 12:03:28 GMT -5 by rocketking
Couple of duds in the show, seen that before the show started. But the big matches delivered...although I think the Namakura/Jinder match could've went longer with more false finishes. Mainevent delivered exponentially better than I thought it would've and left me on a high to enjoy Game of Thrones even more.
Post by rocketking on Aug 21, 2017 10:26:47 GMT -5
Giving each match a "thumbs up/thumbs down" ranking, I have a thumbs up for eight (and a half) matches out of 13. That's a pretty good night.
I think the main event was outstanding. Strowman came off as a monster and the next logical contender for Lesnar. I was happy to see that they teased a few of the big "Lesnar lifting Strowman" spots without giving any of them away*. I will be interested to see where they go with Roman Reigns and Samoa Joe. I feel Reigns taking the fall was just because he's the one that can take the fall without idiots like us trying to divine some grand meaning out of it. Samoa Joe ended up a little bit lost in the shuffle, but that might be a good thing as long as they have a plan for him going forward.
* I feel like Brock might have F5-ed or suplexed Braun at some point during his run with the Wyatts, but that's ancient history in "WWE time."
The best comment I heard about The Usos and New Day was that "they stole a show that they weren't even on." Hard to argue with that up until the main event.
My other "thumbs up" matches are both women's matches, Styles-Owens, Raw tag title match, Neville/Tozawa, and the preshow six-man tag. "Thumbs in the middle" for Balor/Wyatt, which was perfectly acceptable but would have been better if it hadn't just been done (with a clean finish) on Raw. And I hate how they've promoted The Demon character, but that's another issue for another day.
I have a few negative opinions on some of the other happenings, but I don't think they are anything unique, so I'll save them in case somebody else wants to strike up a conversation.
Post by Christian Small on Aug 21, 2017 10:57:39 GMT -5
I think Reigns eating the pin is more surprising because Lesnar/Reigns is meant to be your Mania main event. But to think about it he made the best choice to lose. Think it would have hurt Joe more to lose and you don't want to beat Braun as he has a match with Lesnar coming up. Plus Reigns can eat a pin and not be hurt, he'll be getting reactions regardless.
Fun fact: by my count (edit: never trust "my count". See the posts that follow for correction and clarification.), the Mahal/Nakamura match was the first time that two "legit" Asians (i.e. not actually an American Samoan like Yokozuna) wrestled each other for the WWE Championship.
Last Edit: Aug 23, 2017 9:38:21 GMT -5 by rocketking