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Post by Mark613 on Feb 10, 2016 10:08:53 GMT -5
Did anyone notice during his entrance that the whole crowd was doing the YES! but there was no "yes" sound. Crowd volume was not equal to the visual ovation. Did anyone notice or do I just see the conspiracy in everything? ...and also fuck kevin dunn are you serious? He got almost half an hour and more on the network to talk to his fans. Edge didn't even main event the show with his retirement. Seriously.... They built the entire show around his speech. I don't think their was any ulterior motives going on, nor were they trying to downplay his importance. This comes across like Jason on the LAW after Mania 30, floating the conspiracy that Broke beating Taker was intentionally done so Bryan would get a bad response later on. All things considered, with all the information that has come out since Monday, I think it is time to lay to rest any conspiracy theories about Bryan's retirement, etc. In the end, the WWE was right, and their doctor's were correct, for holding him back and getting more and more testing.
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Post by Milky on Feb 10, 2016 15:24:41 GMT -5
The full ESPN interview:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 20:08:33 GMT -5
You know it must be true (or a work), because if Bryan felt that he could wrestle, but the WWE won't let him why would working for the WWE stop him? Because they're the biggest if not only game in the world? There are plenty of places. When TNA wouldn't let Jesse Saurenson wrestle, he went elsewhere and became a champion. Daniel Bryan can do the same anywhere else. If only WCW still existed one channel down.
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Post by deezy on Feb 10, 2016 20:23:14 GMT -5
Wrestling fans are so smart that they think everything is a work.
Yep, that smart.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 20:52:20 GMT -5
Yeah look how many companies Edge, JBL, Austin and HBK wrestled for when they had retirement injuries.
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Post by deezy on Feb 10, 2016 21:49:07 GMT -5
People still convince themselves those guys were coming out of retirement.
Oh my god HBK super kicked Daniel Bryan, that means he's facing him at Mania.
Oh my god Edge and Triple H had a verbal spat, I wonder how they ate going to work that out? They having a match?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 23:37:41 GMT -5
Austin stunned a bunch of people as commissioner. Made them all look bad with no retaliation. Maybe Daniel Bryan can be the WWE Commissioner!
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Post by thelaw on Feb 11, 2016 0:19:15 GMT -5
When he realized WWE was never going to clear him, Danielson planned on going to work for ROH, New Japan, or CMLL as soon as his contract ended. However, the WWE just suspended the time when the contract was to expire just like they did with Rey Mysterio. Because Danielson was not actually wrestling, the company said they could keep him under contract even though the time period should have ended. This meant that the WWE was willing to keep paying him the downside guarantee for years and never releasing him so he could wrestle elsewhere.
Whether the WWE action would hold up in a court challenge or not is another issue. But since this action was done for health reasons, nobody is likely going to complain.
In America, only the WWE would have such concerns about their workers because they are the only ones with deep pockets. Nobody is going to waste time suing a promotion who has no money or who might not exist anymore years from now.
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Post by deezy on Feb 11, 2016 1:20:04 GMT -5
So did Bryan Danielson say this was his plan or is this more Internet speculation?
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Post by thelaw on Feb 11, 2016 2:47:25 GMT -5
Almost none of the wrestling websites do any journalistic work. They all listen to Meltzer or just read the Observer and post news from there. So basically, this is what Meltzer said on this show from Monday morning.
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Post by deezy on Feb 11, 2016 3:12:46 GMT -5
Meltzer doesn't vet his "sources" and has never done a retraction to the best of my knowledge, not a credible journalist imo. Just rasslins first prolific one.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 3:42:19 GMT -5
The doctor for the Cardinals, UCLA? As prestigious as they are they're not WWE. Maybe he can be a baseball player now. Niki has that baseball gimmick. I see the foreshadowing there even if Niki isn't Brie.
Dave sounds so different, his voice is so much deeper when its not over a phone.
ROH doing IQ tests? Ah for concussions. I see. They make you smarter. Get Tommy Dreamer tested. Raven is in Mensa, but then every 2 years there's a 3 year old that joins Mensa.
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Post by Milky on Feb 11, 2016 16:06:39 GMT -5
Danielson has had at least 10 concussions. There is no way that WWE's doctor Joseph Maroon is ever going to give him the approval to get back into a WWE ring. I'm not really an authority on concussions, but I myself have had at least double-digit concussions, and I've worked in a lab dealing with EEG, brainwaves, neurofeedback, etc, so I just want to clear up something that I would consider a misconception. So just speaking personally, I don't think it really matters how many concussions you've had, as that's not really what's significant. What matters are the periods of time where you are susceptible to concussions. Basically, once you've had a concussion you are more susceptible to further concussions immediately afterwards. Obviously 10 concussions is worst than 2, but 10 concussions over 10 years is not as bad as 5 concussions in 3 days. You are always going to cause damage to your brain, that's what a concussion is, but for Daniel Bryan I would be particularly worried for him if he's still suffering from post-concussion symptoms. Also, on an unrelated topic, I don't think that the WWE's version of Daniel Bryan's contract would hold up in court if he challenged it. Most Europeans on these boards (at least the soccer fans) are probably familiar with the Bossman ruling, and some of the North American fans here (at least those into hockey) might remember back when Bobby Hull signed for the WHA from the NHL. Both cases set precedents that a sports franchise can't own the rights to another athlete indefinitely - contracts do have termination points. I suspect that part of the reasoning for Daniel Bryan's official retirement is to give his WWE contract a definite end point. He probably could have also sued the WWE, but that would have been a lot of work and he was on good money anyway. This way, everyone wins.
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Post by thelaw on Feb 12, 2016 2:39:36 GMT -5
Yesterday, the question was asked to Meltzer why other wrestlers (who have had multiple concussions) are still allowed in a WWE ring? Meltzer suspects the reason why Dr. Maroon would not clear Danielson was due to him telling the doctor that he had seizures after sustaining a concussion. Meltzer went on to say if that is the case, workers in the future would simply not tell doctors that they had a concussion and then a seizure. Plus, none of the other wrestlers ever took same concussion test as Danielson. Perhaps the workers would not want to take such a test because they do not want to know the results.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 7:43:10 GMT -5
I suspect the Authority has always hated that goat man so they finally used this as a secret method to ensure he'll never wrestle for them again. Its a plan so secret it'll never be mentioned outside of a HHH & HBK joke... didn't you retire Daniel Bryan that one time? No. I just didn't let him sign the papers to wrestle again.
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