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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 16:10:15 GMT -5
The more I think about the Divas division the more I hate it. I defend the bellas yet I don't like either one. Its still just cheerleaders under the guise of "better wrestlers." I used to be high on Charlotte and felt she had womens match of the decade at NXT, now she's part of the bad wrestling. I don't see the "better" wrestling, just longer matches. The longer a match goes without being terrible the more invested people get. Its all just more window dressing and hype for longer matches.
Paige is a bad wrestler. She's a combination of Matt Morgan and Razor Ramon. She's just the one that doesn't look like a diva yet she has the same body of a diva just with a different hair color and skin tone. Brie is a bad wrestler. I don't like Niki as a person, but she holds up that division.
Becky Lynch I haven't seen enough of. Sasha I've seen too much of and I just don't get it. Bayley I think is the best of the bunch now. She's great at being average.
I was high on the TNA Knockouts division for a while. That was more of a revolution, but then they fell into the 3 on 3 matches that the WWE would do for a while.
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Post by deezy on Nov 17, 2015 17:12:11 GMT -5
Think I said this on the second page, this division is totally what the vocal minority called for, you wanted divas getting a chance? You got it, you wanted longer matches? You got it. You wanted "added dimensions" with feuds and heat? You got it.
Remember when Heyman and Punk made light of Lawlers heart attack and people got offended?
Be careful what you wish for, you get it and then people will remind you, this is way you wanted and wonder why still criticize.
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Post by Zekey on Nov 17, 2015 17:22:11 GMT -5
Becky Lynch I haven't seen enough of. Sasha I've seen too much of and I just don't get it. Bayley I think is the best of the bunch now. She's great at being average. If you've not seen enough of Becky Lynch then I assume you only watch Raw. But then it would be impossible to say you've seen too much of (the best wrestler ever) Sasha Banks. But then, after that, you said you "just don't get" Sasha Banks. It was at that moment I gave up on you Ryan Ryder. I began to think what your childhood must have been like. How it felt after school taking the small bus home while the other kids just watched. How many Halloween's you trick-or-treated and had the least amount of candy in ur group of 4. <--- all relatives & no friends. How in high school you were the only student without a cell phone. So you borrowed ur moms one day, turned the ringer to LOUD and told her to call at 2:35 in the middle of class. But she never called. How in college a pretty women who kinda looked like Sasha Banks but a bit darker called you over and you were excited but all she wanted was for you to sign up for her club. You stared at her creepily and this young attractive women who looked like Sasha Banks with a name tag you can read now because you were closer that said Bailey gave you the look and backed away from you. Sasha Banks is elite. And don't mess with Bayley either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 19:13:18 GMT -5
Its the same ole same ole under the disguise that it was *NEW AND IMPROVED* I suppose the true test is seeing where it is in a year or even 6 months
Well the 2 others that were against me on this forum flat out insulted me, but you took the long road. Good on you for that to take such a long time to craft an insult rather than addressing my points.
I went to school in a time when cellphones were bricks. You tell that story like it happened to you.
Life is too short to go picking fights on the Internet...
... You know I read that back and maybe the "you" wasn't directed at me, but just anyone in general. See I so don't get Sasha that much its just over my head. So she's just the hot chick that the dorks can't get and that's why she's good? Well then the WWE miscast that role.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 19:36:08 GMT -5
The more I think about the Divas division the more I hate it. I defend the bellas yet I don't like either one. Its still just cheerleaders under the guise of "better wrestlers." I used to be high on Charlotte and felt she had womens match of the decade at NXT, now she's part of the bad wrestling. I don't see the "better" wrestling, just longer matches. The longer a match goes without being terrible the more invested people get. Its all just more window dressing and hype for longer matches. Paige is a bad wrestler. She's a combination of Matt Morgan and Razor Ramon. She's just the one that doesn't look like a diva yet she has the same body of a diva just with a different hair color and skin tone. Brie is a bad wrestler. I don't like Niki as a person, but she holds up that division. Becky Lynch I haven't seen enough of. Sasha I've seen too much of and I just don't get it. Bayley I think is the best of the bunch now. She's great at being average. I was high on the TNA Knockouts division for a while. That was more of a revolution, but then they fell into the 3 on 3 matches that the WWE would do for a while. Perfect.
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Post by quadrupleh on Nov 17, 2015 19:52:03 GMT -5
So, what's the verdict on Paige bringing up Reid Flair? I found it low rent, and a cheap way to get heat.
It's one thing to bring up Ric being involved in getting Charlotte over. That's part of the story, but, Reid is completely unrelated.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 20:43:38 GMT -5
The more I think about the Divas division the more I hate it. I defend the bellas yet I don't like either one. Its still just cheerleaders under the guise of "better wrestlers." I used to be high on Charlotte and felt she had womens match of the decade at NXT, now she's part of the bad wrestling. I don't see the "better" wrestling, just longer matches. The longer a match goes without being terrible the more invested people get. Its all just more window dressing and hype for longer matches. Paige is a bad wrestler. She's a combination of Matt Morgan and Razor Ramon. She's just the one that doesn't look like a diva yet she has the same body of a diva just with a different hair color and skin tone. Brie is a bad wrestler. I don't like Niki as a person, but she holds up that division. Becky Lynch I haven't seen enough of. Sasha I've seen too much of and I just don't get it. Bayley I think is the best of the bunch now. She's great at being average. I was high on the TNA Knockouts division for a while. That was more of a revolution, but then they fell into the 3 on 3 matches that the WWE would do for a while. Perfect. Paige uses the back elbows in the corner and a ragdoll falling suplex throw or whatever its called. She uses a bunch of big man moves with the exclusion of a big boot and head butt. She does seem really tall sometimes and short other times, so I assume platform go go boots. Niki Bella is a combination of Lex Luger and what's a guy that works a single body part and then wins via pinfall? I mean that as a compliment though. Like the moves of a weak body builder and a technician. About Paige bringing up Reid. I forgot he passed away. Its a heel cheap heat that crosses a line, but if that line gets crossed, they need to pay for it. I'd rather they pay for it MMA style, but having a pro wrestling match will have to do.
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Post by groovyphoenix on Nov 18, 2015 9:11:37 GMT -5
Sasha Banks is elite. And don't mess with Bayley either. Sasha, Charlotte, Baley, Paige and Becky are good. When they wrestle each other. Then put in someone like Nikki or Brie and they look horrible. Why? Because Nikki and Brie SUCK as wrestlers I don't care how much they martyr themselves on Total Divas about how much they have done etc. The fact is the girls mentioned above vs "old school girls" will look horrible because its two clashing wrestling styles. One is all about T&A and "looking good" the other is about wrestling, let's guess how many times Brie shouts "Come on cheer" if you have to scream that to get a reaction... You're NOT doing it right! Learn to f'ing wrestle and STFU about the new girls who ARE talented or get out of the ring you old has been wanna be model wrestlers!
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Post by groovyphoenix on Nov 18, 2015 9:14:41 GMT -5
About Paige bringing up Reid. I forgot he passed away. Its a heel cheap heat that crosses a line, but if that line gets crossed, they need to pay for it. I'd rather they pay for it MMA style, but having a pro wrestling match will have to do. Not sure if you noticed but Paige did not iniitialy bring up Reid, Charlotte did by saying "My father, my little brother never quit" To which Paige responded that he did, I saw no big issue with it, it's a point of view and really isn't a "he killed himself" reference directly.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 10:36:44 GMT -5
About Paige bringing up Reid. I forgot he passed away. Its a heel cheap heat that crosses a line, but if that line gets crossed, they need to pay for it. I'd rather they pay for it MMA style, but having a pro wrestling match will have to do. Not sure if you noticed but Paige did not iniitialy bring up Reid, Charlotte did by saying "My father, my little brother never quit" To which Paige responded that he did, I saw no big issue with it, it's a point of view and really isn't a "he killed himself" reference directly. ....I never wrote that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 11:56:11 GMT -5
lol no you didn't.
As for Paige and Reid... I only heard about it. Didn't see it. I'll see it on Survivor Series in a recap of their feud for whatever 4 on 4 womens match or 3 vs 3 vs 3 match they have.
I'm out of the loop on Reid. No idea he was dead or killed himself. That stuff is sad.
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Post by groovyphoenix on Nov 18, 2015 11:58:45 GMT -5
Not sure if you noticed but Paige did not iniitialy bring up Reid, Charlotte did by saying "My father, my little brother never quit" To which Paige responded that he did, I saw no big issue with it, it's a point of view and really isn't a "he killed himself" reference directly. ....I never wrote that. Bah took out the wrong person in the quots sorry Ryan said that LOL.
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Post by groovyphoenix on Nov 18, 2015 11:59:36 GMT -5
Bah took out the wrong person in the quots sorry Ryan said that LOL. If you listen to the LAW this week it's the initial opening segment you hear Charlotte say her thing before Paige says her big thing. So to me, Charlotte made Reid a factor in the promo not Paige, Paige was just responding.
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Post by Milky on Nov 18, 2015 14:31:14 GMT -5
Unlikely scenario:
Charlotte: You know what would get us good heat? Let's bring up my dead brother! Paige: Love it!!
Likely scenario:
Writer: Uhh…. so Vince says that you should bring up Ried in your promo. He thinks it will be good heat. Paige+Charlotte: …. Writer: I'm sorry. I'm just the messenger.
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Post by thebenjamin on Nov 18, 2015 15:03:56 GMT -5
Bitch about Paige all you want but at least she's over. Charlotte should still be in developmental, she cant talk or sell and acts more like a whiny heel than a face. She also gets zero reaction outside of fans wooing. If her last name was something besides Flair she would be an assistant volleyball coach at some division 3 school.
The writers severely handicap the girls but I think Paige does a good job getting the most out of it. Charlotte on Monday was atrocious and I cant believe she didn't run any of the Reid stuff by her dad. The writing on that segment was horrible. Reid ODed - how is Charlotte fighting like her baby brother? Just a piss poor performance by Charlotte.
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