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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 23:27:51 GMT -5
I think ALL OF US see through the bullshit, but to the common 15 yr old girl diva fan all she needed to see was the bella's get more time. Next months ppv is likely to be Naomi vs Nicki Bella. Their finishing moves are the "Rear View" & "Rack Attack" As long as shit like this continues and story lines keep being storylines for girls, instead of storylines that would work for both genders, the Divas have not been given their chance. If that's the case, then every single "PRO" you mentioned is moot.
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Post by Zekey on Apr 11, 2015 23:31:11 GMT -5
I think ALL OF US see through the bullshit, but to the common 15 yr old girl diva fan all she needed to see was the bella's get more time. Next months ppv is likely to be Naomi vs Nicki Bella. Their finishing moves are the "Rear View" & "Rack Attack" As long as shit like this continues and story lines keep being storylines for girls, instead of storylines that would work for both genders, the Divas have not been given their chance. If that's the case, then every single "PRO" you mentioned is moot. What does moot mean?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 23:57:37 GMT -5
If that's the case, then every single "PRO" you mentioned is moot. What does moot mean? dictionary.reference.com/browse/mootBasically, with the way you described how the Divas have been given a "chance" so far (and I agree with you), the end result in how they are perceived hasn't changed so every single PRO you mentioned becomes largely insignificant.
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Post by Milky on Apr 12, 2015 12:48:41 GMT -5
I think the point about SDR being a trainer and not a wrestler was that she's head and shoulders above every current Diva on the roster, and theoretically you could get any male wrestler to also be a good trainer, ergo SDR is better utilized as a talent rather than a behind-the-scenes worker.
I do agree that SDR as a trainer is not bad for those being trained, but that's a long-term project. If you really want to improve the Divas Division today then you need to bring in talented workers like SDR, Sexy Star, Gail Kim, etc. to bring the current product up to speed.
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Post by deezy on Apr 12, 2015 16:20:17 GMT -5
This is purely tokenism from busybodies who think they are morally superior because they find flaws somewhere people weren't looking.
Divas get their fair share of time, historically that Divas title has had more screentime and storylines than the US and IC titles during that same period.
I laugh when people think that this current batch of divas should have more than tags because its fair....these women are not the Eve Torres, Michhelle McCools, Mickie James', Beth Phoenix, or even Maryse's of WWE, they are the ones who wanted a ref to pin counted when someone was on their stomache.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 16:37:29 GMT -5
Cameron is awesome. If you aren't a fan, you just don't get it. #BOYBYE
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 16:53:53 GMT -5
Cameron is awesome. If you aren't a fan, you just don't get it. #BOYBYE The point is that her shoulders aren't on the mat? King Bundy made that mistake. No one in the crowd is laughing. Maybe they're cardboard cutouts.
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Post by deezy on Apr 12, 2015 18:03:50 GMT -5
There's nothing to "get" with Cameron, quite frankly I wish she would "get" lost.
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Post by rinaldo on Apr 12, 2015 20:19:57 GMT -5
Cameron is awesome. If you aren't a fan, you just don't get it. #BOYBYE The point is that her shoulders aren't on the mat? King Bundy made that mistake. No one in the crowd is laughing. Maybe they're cardboard cutouts. Actually that was Kamala in '92 and it was part of his savage character.
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Post by Jack Raines on Apr 13, 2015 1:15:07 GMT -5
I laugh when people think that this current batch of divas should have more than tags because its fair....these women are not the Eve Torres, Michhelle McCools, Mickie James', Beth Phoenix, or even Maryse's of WWE, they are the ones who wanted a ref to pin counted when someone was on their stomache. Most of us who want the Divas division to succeed want WWE to drop deadweights like Cameron, Eva Marie, and Rosa Mendez (not that they're being pushed much anyway). And I would also love it if they cancelled Total Divas, since it would mean less lame storylines just for that show (like the Bellas' horrendous feud). Divas like Emma, Paige, Alicia Fox, and Natalya as well as some from NXT like Sasha Banks, Becky Lynch, Bayley, and Charlotte are every bit as talented as those you mentioned aside from Mickie James.
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Post by deezy on Apr 13, 2015 1:30:20 GMT -5
Total divas is the main reason why people like the Bella's (who are better than most would care to give them credit for(Nikki more)) are actually more mainstream than the Trish's and Lita ever could think of. That show was a hit.
Can't blame the fact that show gets more airtime, it draws....almost like that stuff I was talking about in the other Divas thread.
All those women on the roster and nXt would sacrifice their2nd born to be in that show.
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Post by Jack Raines on Apr 13, 2015 3:15:06 GMT -5
All those women on the roster and nXt would sacrifice their2nd born to be in that show. I doubt it, not everyone wants to be a reality TV star. For example, AJ turned it down when she was offered a chance to be on there. Almost everyone on that show aside from Paige comes off as such a bitch. And it's more of a hit with fans of reality TV garbage like the Kardashians than those who actually watch Raw or Smackdown.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 5:49:17 GMT -5
I was meaning Bundy as a 1 time accident. He splashed someone and wanted a pin, but he had them on their stomach.
I doubt women in wrestling or even fitness ever have 2 kids. A lot of them are loners.
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Post by deezy on Apr 13, 2015 15:24:49 GMT -5
All those women on the roster and nXt would sacrifice their2nd born to be in that show. I doubt it, not everyone wants to be a reality TV star. For example, AJ turned it down when she was offered a chance to be on there. Almost everyone on that show aside from Paige comes off as such a bitch. And it's more of a hit with fans of reality TV garbage like the Kardashians than those who actually watch Raw or Smackdown. An E! rep said she tried out and they didn't want her, mainly because they couldn't get her husband to sign off for camera time.
Don't act like she is infallible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 17:16:09 GMT -5
So the E! rep's husb wouldn't sign off or AJ's husb?
If it was Punk that would be an awesome twist. Man won't wrestle but he'll take a check off his wife's fame. I need to start watching that show again.
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