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Post by TolerancEJ on Jan 27, 2015 12:04:38 GMT -5
Did you folks watch the interview video between Daniel Bryan and Renee Young?
I took away a hint from that interview that perhaps Daniel Bryan was tossed out of the Rumble early purposefully to generate sympathy for him. Bryan's popularity never really took off until we felt Bryan was snubbed at WrestleMania 2012, losing the WHC Title in seconds. Like 2014 when Bryan wasn't even in the Rumble, the audience is extremely pro-Bryan and maybe with a loud enough voice to get in the WrestleMania main event again.
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Post by JN on Jan 27, 2015 12:17:26 GMT -5
I'm always going to be a Daniel Bryan cheerleader and I'd like to think there's always legitimate reasonings into why I support the guy, but unless things just go completely nuts in the next month...it looks like the program is once again Daniel Bryan and a returning heel Sheamus. www.wrestlezone.com/news/546999-update-daniel-bryan-wrestlemania-plansI don't understand Vince's or some fan's logic in not wanting to see him in the title picture because of a repetition of last year, when this is the third damn time Sheamus and Daniel Bryan have wrestled. Unless the build up is really hot, t's kind of disrespectful in a way to have someone so over and a former Mania main-eventer go down so low in an insignificant match. You can't really even use the Chris Benoit Wreslemania 20-21 logic because Benoit could never have reached the level of fan love and mainstream appeal that Bryan has been able to secure. Besides, this is the same company that gave you "once in a lifetime" two years in a row. It's bullshit quite honestly. I loved the interview, it spoke complete truisms about why many fans are rejecting Roman Reigns rise to the top. Yes, this was still on WWE television but Daniel still found a way to poke the bear and tease the idea of Daniel Bryan vs. Brock Lesnar which I appreciated. |
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Post by rinaldo on Jan 27, 2015 12:30:57 GMT -5
I felt for poor Brian Danielson who had to sit there and recite some shit some writer gave him, all the while probably thinking to himself "I just wanted to be a pro wrestler and make it big in the biggest organization in the world. What did I do wrong? Maybe Phil is right...".
They made him a Wyatt (for a week), took the belt away from him numerous times, treated him like garbage despite the love of the fans. Now all Vince needs to do is try and make him a heel and then, maybe then, the fans will just get tired of the continued abuse and just quit on Bryan.
And then Vince will cut a podcast promo on Brian not being able to grasp the fucking brass ring maybe, just maybe, because he's a millennial and from Aberdeen, which Vince knows only produce suicidal singers and goat faced vanilla midgets.
Fuck this organization.
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Post by JN on Jan 27, 2015 13:00:11 GMT -5
Here's how I think you could put a positive spin on Daniel Bryan vs. Sheamus at Wrestlemania. Make it a number one contender's match for the title. I know that Daniel Bryan and Sheamus have had some good matches together, especially at Extreme Rules 2012 so making it the third main event wouldn't be that bad of an idea.
I'm sure the company would want to put Seth Rollins vs. Randy Orton or John Cena vs. Rusev above that match, but I don't think you necessarily have to. Seth Rollins vs. Randy Orton could be the opening match of the night...getting the crowd hot much like Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H was last year.
So then you've got Daniel Bryan taking on an Authority Sheamus and you have Daniel win and it instantly puts him up against the champion at a later show.
However, at the end of the main event after Roman Reigns win you get Seth Rollins to cash in the Money in the Bank briefcase and win the title. So now you've got Daniel Bryan vs. Seth Rollins at Extreme Rules.
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Post by rinaldo on Jan 27, 2015 13:18:25 GMT -5
How about this: Daniel Bryan wins the RR, goes on to WM, kicks Brock's ass to win the title after a grueling David vs Goliath style match and the fans leave happy that their underdog hero made things right for once.
Too late. Anything else would be WWE trying to put a band aid on something they did themselves for the second year in a row.
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Post by JN on Jan 27, 2015 13:22:04 GMT -5
How about this: Daniel Bryan wins the RR, goes on to WM, kicks Brock's ass to win the title after a grueling David vs Goliath style match and the fans leave happy that their underdog hero made things right for once. Too late. Anything else would be WWE trying to put a band aid on something they did themselves for the second year in a row. Exactly. |
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Post by rinaldo on Jan 27, 2015 13:29:29 GMT -5
And what a perfect analogy is for Bryan to wrestle in a casket match on SD...
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Post by kidcanada on Jan 27, 2015 13:46:58 GMT -5
Did you folks watch the interview video between Daniel Bryan and Renee Young? I took away a hint from that interview that perhaps Daniel Bryan was tossed out of the Rumble early purposefully to generate sympathy for him. Bryan's popularity never really took off until we felt Bryan was snubbed at WrestleMania 2012, losing the WHC Title in seconds. Like 2014 when Bryan wasn't even in the Rumble, the audience is extremely pro-Bryan and maybe with a loud enough voice to get in the WrestleMania main event again. So you think he wasn't sympathetic enough after having to forfeit his title due to a legit career-threatening neck injury, which came shortly after the unexpected death of his father, leading to him missing about nine months of action and making his triumphant return to the ring a few weeks before the Royal Rumble to try and reclaim the belt that he never lost in the first place? |
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Post by JN on Jan 27, 2015 13:54:41 GMT -5
And what a perfect analogy is for Bryan to wrestle in a casket match on SD... I know he mentioned it in the interview, but for the love of god I really hope this is just it between Daniel Bryan and Kane. It's time for him to move into a new program. |
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Post by TolerancEJ on Jan 27, 2015 13:59:02 GMT -5
Did you folks watch the interview video between Daniel Bryan and Renee Young? I took away a hint from that interview that perhaps Daniel Bryan was tossed out of the Rumble early purposefully to generate sympathy for him. Bryan's popularity never really took off until we felt Bryan was snubbed at WrestleMania 2012, losing the WHC Title in seconds. Like 2014 when Bryan wasn't even in the Rumble, the audience is extremely pro-Bryan and maybe with a loud enough voice to get in the WrestleMania main event again. So you think he wasn't sympathetic enough after having to forfeit his title due to a legit career-threatening neck injury, which came shortly after the unexpected death of his father, leading to him missing about nine months of action and making his triumphant return to the ring a few weeks before the Royal Rumble to try and reclaim the belt that he never lost in the first place? Of course, everything including the points you've added. Bryan in the WrestleMania main event would have been a no-brainer. Unfortunately no brains are in charge. |
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Post by Andrew Sheehy on Jan 27, 2015 15:22:07 GMT -5
If I were WWE, I'd do this right now. Have Brock Lesnar and Roman Reigns kick off Wrestlemania XXXI with a WWE Title Match and have the winner face Daniel Bryan in the Main Event later on in the show. Have Bryan come out and cut a promo challenging the winner of that match on the RAW after the Fast Lane Pay Per View. Putting him in a meaningless 6 Minute Match with Sheamus wouldn't be a smart idea. It would be like putting Stone Cold Steve Austin in a match with Steve Blackman at Wrestlemania when he was at the height of his popularity. WWE needs to embrace their popular wrestlers right now with the UFC kicking their ass in many ways.
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Post by deezy on Jan 27, 2015 17:30:16 GMT -5
So when WWE pushes this guy as a world champion....it's not drawing, have him beat in 18 seconds and he's cheered like the second coming? Hmm.....seems like every time it looks like he is "buried" the hotter he gets.
Hey this burial thing is working....HEY LETS KEEP DOING THAT!!!
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Post by groovyphoenix on Jan 29, 2015 15:32:42 GMT -5
So when WWE pushes this guy as a world champion....it's not drawing, have him beat in 18 seconds and he's cheered like the second coming? Hmm.....seems like every time it looks like he is "buried" the hotter he gets. Hey this burial thing is working....HEY LETS KEEP DOING THAT!!! This is a clear cut case of FANS not listening to Vinnie Mac, "Damnit I want them to cheer this guy here take him!" and they pick Bryan, Why? Simple he's "the common man" why did Dusty in his polkadots work? Because in spite of Vinnie Dusty has "it" and was able to get it over. Why did Goldust work? Same thing, sometimes Vinnie does things to amuse himself and even "the boys" have said it, but despite that some are able to turn a turd pile into a gold mine. Reigns is the oposite, Vinnie is behind him 100% and people just are starting to shit on him big time. Rock was like this but its not because the rick says "Like him he's my cousin" that I will like Reigns, to me, he's an unproven diamond in the rough, I'm not saying he won't BE something, he's just not something YET. |
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Post by deezy on Jan 30, 2015 3:41:05 GMT -5
The fact that you bring up polka dots and the Goldust character as some sort of burial attempt shows how you don't get it.
Hogan had torn shirts and ripped up bandanas with red and yellow. Dusty was given polka dots because it made him distinguishable, he had something to call his own. That's why he was given polka dots, easier marketing.
Goldust explains itself.
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Post by groovyphoenix on Jan 30, 2015 11:43:31 GMT -5
The fact that you bring up polka dots and the Goldust character as some sort of burial attempt shows how you don't get it. Hogan had torn shirts and ripped up bandanas with red and yellow. Dusty was given polka dots because it made him distinguishable, he had something to call his own. That's why he was given polka dots, easier marketing. Goldust explains itself. You don't know much about hisotry it seems, Polka dots were given to Dusty (and this has been said servral times) as a HUGE rib to his coming to WWE/WWF at the time. Deezy you just like arguing so I'm not gonna bother you're getting near the "ignore" part of me gets anoyed by you but the other part of me sometimes fidn you entertaining because you do have some valuable input. |
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