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Post by chase055 on Nov 30, 2014 0:26:28 GMT -5
Does anyone think this whole thing could be a work? I mean, the network numbers are down. The WWE would greatly benefit from punk returning. This could be the kick-start of an awesome storyline. Remember all the hype after the pipebomb promo? Which a lot of people thought was real right after it happened. Also, his wife still works there! This interview could totally affect her job. I find it hard to believe that he would jeopardize her career like that. I don't know, maybe I'm totally crazy, but with pro wrestling you never know.
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Post by deezy on Nov 30, 2014 1:13:16 GMT -5
Why bury their doctors and the wellness policy? Doesn't do any favours to talk shit about those if it was some elaborate work
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Post by Hacksaw Jim Powers on Nov 30, 2014 14:05:33 GMT -5
You can disagree and argue all you want, but calling people names is pitiful. Nope. Everyone I insulted in this thread insulted me first. One guy called me a sheep before I had said ANYTHING towards him. And another guy said I was "dense as usual" before I said anything about him. If you don't believe me, read the thread from the beginning and see who insulted who first. I hadn't said a single word towards either of these guys before they resorted to name-calling. Why would you presume that I was only talking to you?
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Post by Chris Corr on Nov 30, 2014 22:56:21 GMT -5
There is a reason U had Chris Corr blocked, he proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that, he has to be right no matter how many times you prove him wrong and his idiocy is that he thinks he's right by trying to badger rinse repeat and of course throw insults while saying he doesn't. Yup back to blocking him, maybe if we all blocked him one day he can enjoy talking to himself and we can have him go away. I'm tired of hearing him argue WWE is always so right and of course that makes us stupid because we won't "tow the company line" etc. Lemme see Chris Corr defender of WWE because we all KNOW WWE is good and right and honest and has NEVER done anything wrong! It's not possible at all that a ROAD doctor who is not the one named could be a totally incompetant idiot. Because No WWE mentioned one name and he's "respected in all US" I frankly don't care if its truth or not. He also loves to nitpick like jump on the fact somoene said court case. you'er right Chris 100000000% right, no court case, it was settled OUT of court and Punk GOT everything he asked for because... Lord knows WWE had a LEGAL reason to give it to them, chances are when people settle they are doing it not to "get rid of someone" it's because they would LOSE. Just because they don't "admit" guilt doesn't mean it is. you talk about towing the line? So WWE decides to call it "Main event" 5 times in one event, Chris says "Oh yeah all main events" you are the one deluding what a true main event is, I don't care if you THINK WWE is right they are not. main [1] adj prenominal 1 chief or principal in rank, importance, size, etc. event [ih-vent] Synonyms Examples Word Origin noun 1. something that happens or is regarded as happening; an occurrence, especially one of some importance Thus MAIN EVENT: Something that happens and is regarded as important, and occurs in the most important rank (or slot on the card) THUS, ONE main event. Argue all you will about it, your logic is as fuzzy as WWE's just because they say t is doesn't make it so, These are DICTIONARY definitions, argue with the english language. You are beyond a shadow of a doubt the biggest fucking moron I've seen on all the internetz. Congrats. That's quite an accomplishment,
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Post by Chris Corr on Nov 30, 2014 22:58:24 GMT -5
There is a reason U had Chris Corr blocked, he proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that, he has to be right no matter how many times you prove him wrong and his idiocy You call me an idiot, and then talk about how I insult people. Fuck you're dumb. I'm amazed you can operate a computer to be honest.
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Post by RKing85 on Dec 1, 2014 9:37:27 GMT -5
as mentioned, if it was a work I don't think you bring up the wellness policy and question the WWE's doctors.
I don't for a single second think it's a work. There are other wrestlers that if they did this exact same thing, maybe I could believe it. But definitly not with CM Punk.
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Post by groovyphoenix on Dec 1, 2014 12:13:23 GMT -5
The one thing I find surprising is that WWE is still pushing Punk on the WWE Network, which might leave some to believe it's a work, and I guess I could see that argument based on that, having said that, I doubt it's a work just based on the fact the subjects he brought up would probably be taboo to bring up if he was an employee.
As for Affecting AJ's areer, I think it already has, she lost the belt to the Bella's for crying out loud! LMAO... But seriously, I don't see it affecting it much, they might go petty but she could always walk away and in teh Diva division, AJ is one of the better girls on their roster.
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Post by wigsf3 on Dec 1, 2014 13:36:02 GMT -5
Maybe AJ wants out.
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Post by wigsf3 on Dec 1, 2014 13:40:06 GMT -5
Last year Punk took a Singapore cane to Paul Heyman's doctor. Long term booking, this is all work.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2014 17:55:06 GMT -5
Just wait until the bunny gets unmasked.
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Post by Jack Raines on Dec 4, 2014 3:31:04 GMT -5
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Post by groovyphoenix on Dec 4, 2014 11:37:26 GMT -5
I re-listened to the interview, just because I want to prep myself (Tuesday the Stone Cold with Vinnie Mac interview will be released on the podcasts for those that want to hear both sides.)
First, these are MY opinions only and not really right or wrong, it's just my take on the interview.
While it's true Punk does sound bitter/disgruntled, I don't think inherently there is anything wrong with being bitter/disgruntled, unhappyness breed contempt which breeds bitterness if nothing is done.
So veracity of facts, most of the stuff Punk says is presented to be his take on things, the doctor is the only "debateable" item, by that I mean that it's his side and facts presented are his only, they can be easily proven by the other doctors medical records of that visit however to prove or disprove the veracity of the statement made. I happen to think a few doctors are idiots, others disagree but I'm allowed to think this, whether it was malpractice or just plain idiocy? That is an interpretation or the "rules of medicine" can a doctor make a mistake and missdiagnose something? I am sure they can, it can be missed, so a one off miss doesn't make them incompetent, it just means it's a mistake.
I'm going to now address the quit/fired angle how I see it.
Punk left WWE, he might not have quit but he took his ball and wen thome (for lack of a better term) he said "I'm out, I'm going home to relax" it's been done in the passed, (Michaels lost his "smile) (Stone Cold walked out of the Brock Monday Night Raw) etc, it's happened, there is a precedent of people "walking" cooling off and coming back etc. So Punk did indeed walk out, even he admits he did this. Now did WWE react the same manner as the other cases? No, they instead apparently tried to work it out (Hunter calling him 2 days before his wedding) his timing sucked, lets face it, I don't think the proposal (should it be to Punk's story that he'd call him upon return of his honeymoon) be true that it's not an "unreasonable" request. The fact is however that beyond the wedding, WWE really had no obligation as a corporation to provide any kind of notice when he "left" they could have fired him on the spot, they suspended him 2 months then did not contact him until he made the calls about money owed to him.
All this to say, WWE may have shitty timing, but they are a business and a business doesn't need an excuse to fire you, they can just say "hell with it he'd not worth it"
Punk's own admittance, he is difficult to work with. I am 10000000% sure however that he's NOT the only one, he is right when he mentioned that the locker room is filled with Alpha personalities and that he wants to be top dog, and really if you don't want to be top dog you shouldn't be in the wrestling business. That "drive" is what makes top stars. So while not everyone has "it" sometimes hard work and perseverance can be enough. I am sure Mick Foley did not get to be champion because of his good looks, he got over as Mankind because the FANS responded to him and Vince was smart enough to recognize him.
Punk is sore because he didn't get a main event at Wrestlemania... Well I can understand that, that's what everyone wants however and there are limited spots as a "main event" I don't think the Taker match did anything to "further" his career as he points out, but I also don't think it hurt him.
On his statement that "Wrestlemania" is the draw, I will 100% disagree, Wrestlemania has become an institution in its own, outside of the sport and inside, people "know" what Wrestlemania" is, it's become a week long event that every city vies to get and only few receive, Why? Because it's a HUGE money maker. So if you look at the name, yes, it's got a life of it's own...
However, certain cards sucked balls and I didn't spend money for it. When Ric Flair vs Shawn was announced, I bought it, I wanted to see that match specifically in the card. Hogan vs Rock at 18? Wanted to see that too, I bought the DVD and PPV of 18 because that match to me was so memorable.
Did he Quit or was he fired? I'll call it a stalemate, he was fired officially after he "quit" he walked away causing them to really have no choice but to terminate him (in their eyes of course)
There's other things but running ragged today and I want to hear the Vince interview (available Tuesday) to hear both sides, I heard abit of it and I know Vince was saying a lot of the same when it comes to CM he was difficult to work with etc. He didn't bash him from what little I saw but he also did state he would work with Punk again if the chance occurs.
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Post by deezy on Dec 4, 2014 14:10:03 GMT -5
WWE has come to terms on the release of the following Superstars as of Thursday, June 12, 2014: JTG Drew McIntyre Jinder Mahal Aksana Curt Hawkins Theodore Long Camacho Brodus Clay Evan Bourne Yoshi Tatsu Marc Harris (referee) WWE wishes them the best in all their future endeavors. www.wwe.com/inside/wwe-releas...s-june-12-2014CM Punk was released a day after because he didn't return Triple Hs 2 phone calls before this. Vince's miscommunication line makes more sense than "they fired me on my wedding to duck with me" line CM Punk is feeding you.
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Post by RKing85 on Dec 5, 2014 23:22:12 GMT -5
the second interview is just two friends shooting the shit.
As they mentioned in the interview, I feel sorry for whoever is the Art of Wrestling guest next week. lol.
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Post by Milky on Dec 8, 2014 16:41:59 GMT -5
CM Punk was really only wrong in regards to The Rock not being a draw, but the rest of what he says is entirely plausible and definitely comes from a real place. Punk does not pull any punches, which is commendable.
I didn't know that he was officially fired on his wedding day. That was definitely by design, although I think Vince was genuinely sorry for it during his interview with Austin.
I was also surprised by Punk's entry into the UFC. I thought he would be Japan-bound.
It's sad that the WWE could be so much better, but just isn't.
It's also sad that this thread descended into name-calling. C'mon people.
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