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Post by Chris Corr on Nov 29, 2014 7:22:35 GMT -5
Wow dense as usual, bah bah black sheep, argue what you will, Just because WWE says it's a main event doesn't make it so.[/quote] No, you are the sheep blindingly believing everything CM Punk says. You're lying, as is Punk. There are often multiple main events at WM. If you're too stupid to realize that, I can't help you. What a stupid question. I don't pay based on how many "main events" they say they are running. No, not necessarily. And just because Punk says it doesn't make it so. Sheep. No dummy. This isn't the past. There are sometimes multiple main events now. You can be brainwashed and believe whatever Punk tells you. But that doesn't make it so.
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Post by Chris Corr on Nov 29, 2014 7:26:04 GMT -5
Why would any doctor risk potentially screwing over their own career by letting staph infection go unnoticed? Seems weird a doctor for grapplers and fake grapplers wouldn't know what staph is. Doctor may be lazy, but I doubt he is that stupid. Something just doesn't add up to me. The unfortunate answer to this is simple... Because he knows who butters his bread? The Wellness Program is run by Dr. Joseph Maroon. He is one of the most respected doctors in the United States. You are truly stupid if you are questioning his ethics or professionalism (which you seem to be doing). I'm sorry, but there was really no respectful way to say that.
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Post by Hacksaw Jim Powers on Nov 29, 2014 8:04:02 GMT -5
Wait - one of the most respected doctors in the United States is on the road with WWE? That's the doctor in question, here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 11:46:21 GMT -5
The unfortunate answer to this is simple... Because he knows who butters his bread? The Wellness Program is run by Dr. Joseph Maroon. He is one of the most respected doctors in the United States. You are truly stupid if you are questioning his ethics or professionalism (which you seem to be doing). I'm sorry, but there was really no respectful way to say that. WWE's generic response name-dropped Maroon specifically so people would react like you just did. Looks like their attempt at misdirection worked. It's beautifully ironic coming from a guy who is calling other people "sheep". While Punk had issues with some aspects of the wellness policy such as their "redemption program" and questioned the effectiveness of drug testing and their use of ImPACT concussion testing, he was lashing out specifically at the alleged incompetence of Dr. Chris Amman, one of WWE's road docs. deezy brought up the relevant point that if Punk's account of events is true, it seems very strange that a doctor surrounded by grapplers would not be able to properly diagnose staph, let alone MRSA and would allegedly do other things that would jeopardize his license (and be potentially criminal negligence). groovyphoenix's response was specifically to those points which had absolutely nothing to do with Maroon, who does not micromanage the road docs. WWE's public response mentioned the name of their medical director who is a well-known and respected doctor so that it deflects attention away from the person Punk was actually shitting on. Something like this is not done by accident. It is carefully worded to try and mold the narrative into their favor, esp. since this podcast has gotten considerable mainstream media coverage. Usually people don't fall for such obvious fuckery. Looks like you bought it hook, line and sinker, though.
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Post by Andrew Sheehy on Nov 29, 2014 13:52:07 GMT -5
CM Punk's comments about WWE doctors on Colt Cabana's podcast should serve as a wake up call in regards to WWE being regulated by Athletic Commissions. 5-10 years from now, Athletic Commission Doctors will be on hand at all WWE events. Concussions will result in Medical Suspensions and Drug Test Failures will result in stiffer penalties than the current WWE Wellness Policy which is a joke.
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Post by Chris Corr on Nov 29, 2014 15:44:42 GMT -5
WWE's generic response name-dropped Maroon specifically so people would react like you just did. He IS one of the most respected doctors in the United States moron. That's a fact. I didn't make that up. No you idiot. The other guy called me a sheep first. I didn't call him a sheep until AFTER he had called me a sheep (completely unprovoked too, I hadn't even addressed him once before he called me a sheep). Read the thread from the beginning if you don't believe me. You are beyond stupid. I don't think there is anything that can be done to help you. We haven't even heard the other side of the story. So there's no point in "what if" scenarios. It could be a 100% fabrication. And my response is that he called me a sheep (again, completely unprovoked, read the thread from the beginning dummy), yet he is actually the sheep blindly believing everything that Punk said. As are you. As you've bought Punk's narrative hook, line, and sinker. So I guess that puts us in the same boat.
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Post by Chris Corr on Nov 29, 2014 15:50:18 GMT -5
^ In Punks defence, he did win the court case. I think the staph infection was legitimate. What court case are you referring to? There was no court case you idiot.
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Post by Hacksaw Jim Powers on Nov 29, 2014 17:11:36 GMT -5
You can disagree and argue all you want, but calling people names is pitiful.
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Post by deezy on Nov 29, 2014 19:06:28 GMT -5
Insults never prove your point, wait for the ignorant to do that IMO.
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Post by groovyphoenix on Nov 29, 2014 20:23:39 GMT -5
There is a reason U had Chris Corr blocked, he proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that, he has to be right no matter how many times you prove him wrong and his idiocy is that he thinks he's right by trying to badger rinse repeat and of course throw insults while saying he doesn't. Yup back to blocking him, maybe if we all blocked him one day he can enjoy talking to himself and we can have him go away.
I'm tired of hearing him argue WWE is always so right and of course that makes us stupid because we won't "tow the company line" etc. Lemme see Chris Corr defender of WWE because we all KNOW WWE is good and right and honest and has NEVER done anything wrong! It's not possible at all that a ROAD doctor who is not the one named could be a totally incompetant idiot. Because No WWE mentioned one name and he's "respected in all US" I frankly don't care if its truth or not.
He also loves to nitpick like jump on the fact somoene said court case. you'er right Chris 100000000% right, no court case, it was settled OUT of court and Punk GOT everything he asked for because... Lord knows WWE had a LEGAL reason to give it to them, chances are when people settle they are doing it not to "get rid of someone" it's because they would LOSE. Just because they don't "admit" guilt doesn't mean it is.
you talk about towing the line? So WWE decides to call it "Main event" 5 times in one event, Chris says "Oh yeah all main events" you are the one deluding what a true main event is, I don't care if you THINK WWE is right they are not.
main [1] adj prenominal 1 chief or principal in rank, importance, size, etc.
event [ih-vent]
Synonyms Examples Word Origin
noun 1. something that happens or is regarded as happening; an occurrence, especially one of some importance
Thus MAIN EVENT: Something that happens and is regarded as important, and occurs in the most important rank (or slot on the card) THUS, ONE main event.
Argue all you will about it, your logic is as fuzzy as WWE's just because they say t is doesn't make it so, These are DICTIONARY definitions, argue with the english language.
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Post by Chris Corr on Nov 29, 2014 21:01:34 GMT -5
You can disagree and argue all you want, but calling people names is pitiful. Nope. Everyone I insulted in this thread insulted me first. One guy called me a sheep before I had said ANYTHING towards him. And another guy said I was "dense as usual" before I said anything about him. If you don't believe me, read the thread from the beginning and see who insulted who first. I hadn't said a single word towards either of these guys before they resorted to name-calling.
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Post by Chris Corr on Nov 29, 2014 21:11:54 GMT -5
There is a reason U had Chris Corr blocked, he proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that, he has to be right no matter how many times you prove him wrong and his idiocy is that he thinks he's right by trying to badger rinse repeat and of course throw insults while saying he doesn't. You are an UNBELIEVABLE fucking liar. You insulted me first. On page 2 of this thread you said: "Wow dense as usual, bah bah black sheep, argue what you will, Just because WWE says it's a main event doesn't make it so." Where had I insulted you prior to that post ANYWHERE in this thread? Go ahead and show me the post. You are absolutely full of shit. You idiot. You claim I "throw insults" at you, but that was only after you insulted me by saying "bah bah black sheep". Go ahead, and show me the post anywhere in this thread where I had insulted you, or even mentioned/responded to you prior to those unprovoked comments you made about me. And I'm tired of you calling me a "sheep" when I hadn't responded or mentioned you even once in the entire thread prior to that. You called me a name for no reason. You're a fucking idiot who has to resort to name-calling when someone doesn't agree with you. And if you're going to continue to claim I called you a name first, go ahead and quote the post where I insulted you prior to you saying "Wow dense as usual, bah bah black sheep, argue what you will, Just because WWE says it's a main event doesn't make it so." You won't find such a post because it doesn't exist. You called me a sheep, so I responded and insulted you. Had you not called me a sheep, I wouldn't have even mentioned you, or responded to any of your asinine comments. Incompetent stupid. Not "incompetant". Jesus H. Christ. That's the first time I've ever seen you tell the truth. I insulted the guy who said court case because he's the same guy who had already called me a sheep, which was rude. Had he not done that, I would have politely corrected him instead of insulting him. Nope. You don't get to decide what constitutes a "main event", as much as you think you do. Learn how to spell before you tell others to "argue with the english language". And it's ironic how you talk about me "throwing insults" when you are the one who insulted me first. Once again, resorting to lies. I never said I don't insult people. But I don't insult people unless they say something negative about me first.
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Post by deezy on Nov 29, 2014 21:14:56 GMT -5
There is a reason U had Chris Corr blocked, he proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that, he has to be right no matter how many times you prove him wrong and his idiocy is that he thinks he's right by trying to badger rinse repeat and of course throw insults while saying he doesn't. Yup back to blocking him, maybe if we all blocked him one day he can enjoy talking to himself and we can have him go away. I'm tired of hearing him argue WWE is always so right and of course that makes us stupid because we won't "tow the company line" etc. Lemme see Chris Corr defender of WWE because we all KNOW WWE is good and right and honest and has NEVER done anything wrong! It's not possible at all that a ROAD doctor who is not the one named could be a totally incompetant idiot. Because No WWE mentioned one name and he's "respected in all US" I frankly don't care if its truth or not. He also loves to nitpick like jump on the fact somoene said court case. you'er right Chris 100000000% right, no court case, it was settled OUT of court and Punk GOT everything he asked for because... Lord knows WWE had a LEGAL reason to give it to them, chances are when people settle they are doing it not to "get rid of someone" it's because they would LOSE. Just because they don't "admit" guilt doesn't mean it is. you talk about towing the line? So WWE decides to call it "Main event" 5 times in one event, Chris says "Oh yeah all main events" you are the one deluding what a true main event is, I don't care if you THINK WWE is right they are not. main [1] adj prenominal 1 chief or principal in rank, importance, size, etc. event [ih-vent] Synonyms Examples Word Origin noun 1. something that happens or is regarded as happening; an occurrence, especially one of some importance Thus MAIN EVENT: Something that happens and is regarded as important, and occurs in the most important rank (or slot on the card) THUS, ONE main event. Argue all you will about it, your logic is as fuzzy as WWE's just because they say t is doesn't make it so, These are DICTIONARY definitions, argue with the english language. WWE does right and wrong....you using this issue to prove their evilness is the same thing you are accusing the guy you are talking about for doing. My problem is certain things CM Punk said about their doctors and their treatment if talent. What he alleges is almost Superstar billy Graham levels of accusations.
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Post by Chris Corr on Nov 29, 2014 21:21:40 GMT -5
There is a reason U had Chris Corr blocked, he proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that, he has to be right no matter how many times you prove him wrong and his idiocy is that he thinks he's right by trying to badger rinse repeat and of course throw insults while saying he doesn't. Yup back to blocking him, maybe if we all blocked him one day he can enjoy talking to himself and we can have him go away. I'm tired of hearing him argue WWE is always so right and of course that makes us stupid because we won't "tow the company line" etc. Lemme see Chris Corr defender of WWE because we all KNOW WWE is good and right and honest and has NEVER done anything wrong! It's not possible at all that a ROAD doctor who is not the one named could be a totally incompetant idiot. Because No WWE mentioned one name and he's "respected in all US" I frankly don't care if its truth or not. He also loves to nitpick like jump on the fact somoene said court case. you'er right Chris 100000000% right, no court case, it was settled OUT of court and Punk GOT everything he asked for because... Lord knows WWE had a LEGAL reason to give it to them, chances are when people settle they are doing it not to "get rid of someone" it's because they would LOSE. Just because they don't "admit" guilt doesn't mean it is. you talk about towing the line? So WWE decides to call it "Main event" 5 times in one event, Chris says "Oh yeah all main events" you are the one deluding what a true main event is, I don't care if you THINK WWE is right they are not. main [1] adj prenominal 1 chief or principal in rank, importance, size, etc. event [ih-vent] Synonyms Examples Word Origin noun 1. something that happens or is regarded as happening; an occurrence, especially one of some importance Thus MAIN EVENT: Something that happens and is regarded as important, and occurs in the most important rank (or slot on the card) THUS, ONE main event. Argue all you will about it, your logic is as fuzzy as WWE's just because they say t is doesn't make it so, These are DICTIONARY definitions, argue with the english language. WWE does right and wrong....you using this issue to prove their evilness is the same thing you are accusing the guy you are talking about for doing. My problem is certain things CM Punk said about their doctors and their treatment if talent. What he alleges is almost Superstar billy Graham levels of accusations. Dr. Amman was on Talk Is Jericho a month or so ago. Anybody who has listened to that podcast will have 1000X more respect for Dr. Amman than they do for Phil Brooks. Amman never slung mud, exposed backstage "dirt", or resorted to making unproven allegations.
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Post by groovyphoenix on Nov 29, 2014 22:34:38 GMT -5
You're right deezy WWE isn't perfect they do right and wrong, some good some bad, I think when it comes to talent, they are no worse then any other wrestling fed that asks their talent to wrok hurt etc. Of course, the talent has the final choice, but if they refuse to work, they have "gone down the card" or "not gotten the push" etc as "unfit workers" etc. etc. It's always been said that if you don't "tow the company line" that you wouldn't get the push wouldn't get the work etc, point being what CM said wasn't really "news" to anyone who's watched and listened to many shoot interviews, all wrestlers say it, but in the end, to change things all they need to do is all decide not to work hurt, problem? One always will which means things won't change.
It's the nature of the beast, Wrestling is an independent employee thing, WWE hires them under contract, but they themselves are indepdent wrestlers/workers in the truest sense of the word.
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