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Post by thebenjamin on Nov 20, 2017 12:42:56 GMT -5
Guys in their late 40s lasting longer and going over younger talent - check
Heatless crowd - check
Non-sensical finish - check
Just a horribly booked match that made zero sense. Why have Shane, Angle and HHH last so long? The fact that they're still relying on these guys in 2017 is pretty sad.
Why not just finish the show with Styles/Lesnar? The fact that they got the crowd to care despite it being painfully obvious RAW would win (3-2 SD lead at that point) proved how great both guys are. The main event the crowd completely died. And why not mention the fact that it's a series of seven matches before Sunday? I'm betting Vince woke up and decided to keep track or something, so weird.
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Post by pj on Nov 20, 2017 16:04:01 GMT -5
I totally agree with you.
I have one question : Why has Nia been counted out and Braun has not ?
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Post by Jamie G on Nov 20, 2017 16:12:36 GMT -5
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Post by pj on Nov 20, 2017 17:59:17 GMT -5
Oh alright. Thank you Jamie. I thought I had missed something.
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Post by RKing85 on Nov 20, 2017 22:55:55 GMT -5
big unbeatables losing via countout in the Survivor Series is the longest running tradition there is in the world of professional wrestling.
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Post by deezy on Nov 21, 2017 3:36:50 GMT -5
Talent isn't over like those old guys.
Just like WCW you're not replacing Hulk Hogan with a bunch of Billy Kidman's.
Except of course BRAUNNNNNN
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Post by rinaldo on Nov 21, 2017 4:52:54 GMT -5
HHH: "AJ Styles couldn't headline at a flea market".
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Post by deezy on Nov 21, 2017 5:37:12 GMT -5
That young up and comer AJ Styles....a young 40.
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Post by rinaldo on Nov 21, 2017 6:57:33 GMT -5
Quite like young up and comer Carlos Colon at RR '93, LOL
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Post by thebenjamin on Nov 21, 2017 11:54:07 GMT -5
Guys aren't over because they lose all the time.
Roode and Nakamura were both damaged by lame ass feuds with Ziggler, and then Nakamura was mocked and then ended up losing several times to Jinder.
Balor pretty much never wins, he lost to 50-year-old Kane a few weeks back to build up to a spot where the ring collapses.
Braun wins and therefore is over - it's not rocket science.
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Jamie G
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Post by Jamie G on Nov 21, 2017 12:08:37 GMT -5
I've never seen anyone less interested in anything than Cena was in the main event. Watch his face when he's doing his shoulder tackles before the knuckle shit. He actually looks bored.
Only came back to push his new shirt. Didn't wear the geek brand shirts like everyone except Shane and HHH. Wonder who the company thinks the stars are?
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Post by rocketking on Nov 21, 2017 13:16:43 GMT -5
I'm willing to accept the main event (though I didn't particularly like it) if it leads to Triple H eventually doing a legit job for Strowman or some other newer talent.
But the original post left out the most "WCW" thing about the main event: If you constantly refer to Smackdown as "The B Show" and then treat it like The B Show then guess what? Smackdown is now The B Show. It's like the nWo telling us that WCW sucks and then WCW never doing anything to not suck.
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Post by deezy on Nov 21, 2017 14:29:19 GMT -5
Roode and Nakamura both have stellar win/loss records. ...but that don't matter....because wins and losses only matter when creative wants it too.
Ziggler was hit during his Miz feud because they wanted his win to something.
Also...maybe...now just maybe. Nakamura and Roode shouldn't have just been an entrance in NXT.
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Post by Christian Small on Nov 21, 2017 14:55:34 GMT -5
In fairness Nakamura wasn't just an entrance in NXT. He was booked really well there I thought. Anyway this is an issue they've had for a long time now, failing to make new stars. It's more annoying because the company is actually fantastic at making stars when they're focused on that.
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Post by deezy on Nov 21, 2017 15:57:16 GMT -5
If your theme music overshadows your in ring....some things wrong with your matches and maybe there's something wrong with your supposed fans.
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