About my call on the show Oct 5, 2017 18:47:31 GMT -5
Post by hanzi83 on Oct 5, 2017 18:47:31 GMT -5
EDIT: I disagree with almost everything u wrote in your 1st post and your phone call.
I suppose if Enzo had a ghost writer that could be turned into a storyline. But I don't want an acknowledgement that there's a team of writers who prepare everyone's material.
Sami Zayn being on KO's dvd should not be mentioned on the WWE broadcasts. I accept that WWE produces real world documentaries. Lets keep them separate.
Daniel Bryan went from a loser to a winner because the fans cheered louder for him. He channeled that into a championship run. Fans have the power to raise you up from a hold.
If Curt Hawkins ever said that he dives then the audience should roll their eyes. It should be treated like a kid who loses and says "I wasn't even trying".
Dolph Ziggler has never said he's required to take dives and never should.
Okay you can disagree but it doesnt mean wwe or the wrestling world hasnt moved into that territory and when real life issues are fucking with what peoples reactions are to the product it shiws me that the wrestling world has been moving in that direction and by the way when I said things were scripted I wasnt saying the actual matches or saying they fake matches and acknowledge that but throughout its history they have always specified sports entertainment and bring it up constantly especially when Brock is saying he is brunging legitimacy back into the company and when people cut promos saying they want to be a professional wrestler and not a sports entertainer what does that entail in the storylne? If things in real life in other industries are orchestrated or scripted why couldnt the world in wrestling be that and again I wasnt saying every single element has to be exposed but under the guise of sports entertainment you can say thats why ppl get away with committing horrific crimes because under the guise of s reality show they are alowed to break the law. You cant blur the lines one minute and then go into stuff the general audience doesnt care about.... especially when they are breaking character with these real life moments like the susan g comen segments ... and they aew the ones who referenced Owens dvd and Sami Zayn acknowledging on their television show
im not saying show the writers etc but in their own program they referred to Steph head of creative... nothing I have suggested is out of thin air its existed in their programming and all Im sayung if you expose little elements from it to bring in a more reality based product it would come off better
And you are telling me fans cheering Bryan is what made him not be a loser anymore? You could say that people playing up a gimmick (and they have mentioned gimmicks before) couldnt really focus on his true skill because he was focusing on being entertaining rather than wrestling... thats the kind of stuff Im talkijg about .. you dont have to expose EVERYTHING like worked matches etc but show that in WWE there are certain rules and use the past
Like Dusty Rhides in the WWE was a sports entertainer why didnt he ever get a world title shot and why was he a shell of his former self in WWE than the version we saw in NWA WCW?
Ill say this though that whether people want to admit or not Vince etc know what they are doing and stuff on social media and in real life is an extended part of kayfabe and if that wasnt true half the interest in the product wouldnt be the real life stuff and its like that is the new kayfabe ans Im not talking about every element but a good protion could be used to blur the lines and if the ultimate sin is breaking kayfabe then people in the business wouldnt be profiting off exposing “insider”stuff all the time and people in the media wouldnt be talking about the real life issues behind the scenes because in every entertainment form the behind the scenes stuff has become a part of the show and without being the attitude era they have found a way to have their roster in “real life” swear more and have controversial opinions and then when their main product starts its a PG show.. these people know what they are doing ...
And if feuds werent scripted in storyline time to time then how do you explain Wyatts and Orton fighting at night and then it being the day tike at the ppv because whether people like itmor not there are things that didnt hit well with the audience they are making it more than obvious that stuff in storyline is scripted... like Taker isnt really a dead guy but in his real life kayfabe life he could be a part of a satanic cult and his Taker person is full of theatrics
Fans will complain abiut things not making sense all day and every day but when there is a possible way to undo all the convoluted shit they have given us they will shit on it too and Im nit sayung its the best idea but it would definitely make more people watch if you expose a conspiracy that is going on and maybe the way wrestling ismpresented is why other people dont take it seriously or people have to hide they are wrestling fans and then having them come to forums to bitch non stop anout the product being shit and the storylijes are too scripted
If you want to stay within storyline then guess what then we shouldnt care about the backstage stuff then but we do and in this era where the internet is not some underground haven it was in the 90s it is impossible for us not to be affected by backstage news and it interfering with the product otherwise Reigns would be over as a good guy which he isnt supposed to be becsuse he is a mindern day heel who is pretendjng to be good