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Post by deezy on May 2, 2017 13:28:16 GMT -5
A throw away match on a star starved Raw is an anomaly,cnot a pattern.
After it was all over, we still have the same feuds that were going on before it. Balor/Bray notwithstanding.
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Post by sluggo on May 3, 2017 10:23:58 GMT -5
A throw away match on a star starved Raw is an anomaly,cnot a pattern. After it was all over, we still have the same feuds that were going on before it. Balor/Bray notwithstanding. What I asked was, wasn't it a good match?
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Post by deezy on May 3, 2017 15:13:57 GMT -5
A throw away match on a star starved Raw is an anomaly,cnot a pattern. After it was all over, we still have the same feuds that were going on before it. Balor/Bray notwithstanding. What I asked was, wasn't it a good match? Of course it as good match, it was damn good match. Just saying lowering them to midcard is just a bad idea. And i think the company thinks that too. No Cass, no BRAUNNNNN​ are going g to take their spots....not yet.
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Post by sluggo on May 4, 2017 10:50:36 GMT -5
What I asked was, wasn't it a good match? Of course it as good match, it was damn good match. Just saying lowering them to midcard is just a bad idea. And i think the company thinks that too. No Cass, no BRAUNNNNN​ are going g to take their spots....not yet. So what a horrible idea for these guys to work each other and form a division of highly skilled, great worker who would/could put on great matches all the time. Much better to line them up and feed them to Lesnar and Reigns. None of them feuding for the Universal Title. None of them WILL get a legit shot at it - even if they get a match with Lesnar, he isn't getting beat until Reigns beats him. Giving them a title to feud over while they aren't in the Universal Title picture doesn't lower their status. Strowman has taken their spots. And its painfully obvious they see money in Cass.
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Post by deezy on May 4, 2017 13:34:57 GMT -5
It's called giving them a glass ceiling. Cruiserweight division is that exact thing.....here feud exclusively with each other.
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Post by sluggo on May 5, 2017 13:31:51 GMT -5
It's called giving them a glass ceiling. Cruiserweight division is that exact thing.....here feud exclusively with each other. a glass ceiling of being a champion and one of the top stars on a show, while letting them look strong and put on great matches if they ever want to move them up to the Universal title for a real push? Geee, how limiting. Much more limiting them letting them be B-level wrestlers who always (at least the next year or two) to Lesnar and Reigns and Strowman.
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Post by deezy on May 5, 2017 16:56:52 GMT -5
B level titles are not a priority, only when it's paired with special talents is it ever worth anything.
Are we limiting guys who have already mainevented shows to be lower tier to unproven big guys? That makes zero sense.
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Post by Christian Small on May 6, 2017 10:54:52 GMT -5
We can't forget that there is also variety in pro wrestling. If you do to many "big man" matches then fans will get bored of seeing it, mix it up with a big man/small man match or a different type of match style. It like deezy mentioned with the cruiserweight, granted you can get more variation in that division but it's still cruiserweights facing each other. I think the reason why a guy like Rey Mysterio worked so well was that while he was a cruiserweight guy it wasn't out the norm for him to go a wrestle in the US division or even the World title picture.
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Post by sluggo on May 8, 2017 8:18:30 GMT -5
B level titles are not a priority, only when it's paired with special talents is it ever worth anything. Are we limiting guys who have already mainevented shows to be lower tier to unproven big guys? That makes zero sense. because its mis-handled by people with that mentality. You use talent you want (or should want to) protect from becoming canon fodder to build up Lesnar, Reigns and Strowman but who are popular to make the title important and valuable again - its win-win. It doesn't matter what they've done in the past - they will not be givent he chance to "carry the ball" for a year+. Simple as that. You have to get past the idea that those guys are going to a strong main event push anytime soon. What do you think it better for Balor - to hang around in non-title feuds until Summer Slam, and then job to Lesnar, and then go back to non-title grudge feuds OR be given a strong run with the IC title vs opponents like Rollins, Ambros, Miz etc.... (or example)
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