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Post by Zekey on Jan 12, 2017 22:25:20 GMT -5
And if not then who?
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Post by RKing85 on Jan 12, 2017 23:19:41 GMT -5
because it's WWE and they are petty, I could see them having Tye enter at number 11 for no reason what so ever, just so they can say they swerved the internet marks.
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Post by siredger on Jan 13, 2017 1:06:15 GMT -5
Or just not having Tye Dillinger in the Rumble at all because they don't want the fans to hijack the Royal Rumble (and the PPV in itself) again this year. That would shock me even less than not having Tye enter at #10
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Post by kalgoroth on Jan 13, 2017 2:27:18 GMT -5
Or just not having Tye Dillinger in the Rumble at all because they don't want the fans to hijack the Royal Rumble (and the PPV in itself) again this year. That would shock me even less than not having Tye enter at #10 I can see the opposite, rumble attendees tend to be the more hardcore lot and are more likely to follow NXT therefore I could see a situation where the crowd would hijack it if he wasn't no.10. You'd hope they have learned some lessons from the last few years and actually give the fans something they want, especially given this is a relatively minor thing in the long run so surely is no skin off their nose to actually do. The situation regarding who is likely to win is different this year as there isn't a clear favourite the fans want to win i.e. no Daniel Bryan, so basically as long as it isn't Roman (not even sure if he is in it this year given his match with Owens?) then there should be no real issues, apart from Tye.
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Post by wigsf3 on Jan 13, 2017 8:42:45 GMT -5
I hope so because it could be a huge pop. But then he gets eliminated in ten seconds forever cementing him as a comedy jobber. So I guess I hope not.
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Post by rocketking on Jan 13, 2017 9:37:16 GMT -5
It would be a good one-off bit of business, but unless there's a legitimate call-up and/or push behind it (which feels unlikely), then it's just a comedy spot. Also, I don't like the Rumble as a debut spot for guys like Nakamura or Joe (under the safe assumption that they're not going to win it), but it's a good place for guys like Dillinger to appease the NXT crowd.
Either way, #10 is right around the time where a monster is cleaning house or when they're starting to fill the ring with randoms. Both are good spots for Tye. Rather see him than Jack Swagger or Darren Young.
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Post by Christian Small on Jan 13, 2017 11:24:08 GMT -5
I don't feel like there's a massive call out for him to be no.10, it's a spot where a group of people will go "Ah that was clever" and then nothing comes out of it. It's essentially the surprise nostalgia spot in the rumble, you leave thinking it was cool to see them but nothing else. That spot is fine for someone you don't have plans for the future with.
Debuting in the rumble isn't always a bad thing, look at AJ last year. The counterpoint is look at someone like Rusev who originally debuted in a rumble but then was taken off TV right after and they acted like he was never in it with just doing the debut vignettes with him before Mania. So it's not always a bad debut but it has to be the right guy and done in the right way.
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Post by Zekey on Jan 13, 2017 17:27:53 GMT -5
because it's WWE and they are petty, I could see them having Tye enter at number 11 for no reason what so ever, just so they can say they swerved the internet marks. Ultimate swerve: Vince Russo's music plays. Massive boos. He comes out with a microphone. And introduces #10 Tye Dillenger.
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Post by john casey on Jan 13, 2017 18:11:37 GMT -5
I think Elias Samson (For The heat) and then Dillinger comes out.
What WWE might do if he isn't Number 10 or not in the Rumble, is see what the reaction of the fans is i.e. if the crowd is constantly chanting 10 throughout the show, they may make a audible and insert him in.
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Post by deezy on Jan 14, 2017 7:42:37 GMT -5
Fire him and kill the chants IMO.
I want to know hear count outs again.
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Post by kalgoroth on Jan 14, 2017 10:12:21 GMT -5
Fire him and kill the chants IMO. I want to know hear count outs again. That wouldn't kill the chant. The "what" chant didn't go away with Austin. "Woo" didnt go away with Flair (though admittedly he has never really 'gone away' but you get what i mean!) The fact it has gotten over in the main WWE crowd, the majority of whom have no idea who Dillinger is shows it is less about the man and more about people thinking it's the latest 'in' thing to do.
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Post by rocketking on Jan 14, 2017 15:10:24 GMT -5
Fire him and kill the chants IMO. I want to know hear count outs again. Owens vs. Reigns in a match where the title can change hands with a DQ or countout. Owens gets counted out because he couldn't hear the count, and Reigns wins the belt and thanks the fans for their help. That'll shut the smarks up.
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Post by Gee Hall on Jan 23, 2017 11:16:33 GMT -5
I'm on the fence on this one. I think the crowd should chant whatever they like. At times I certainly find it annoying too, but that is the rub. This is a spectator event. It feeds off crowd interaction, after all. Without that, it really wouldn't be as entertaining.
I don't know how you get around that too easily. Subjectivity is certainly going to play a part in how you interpret when it is funny or annoying when the WWE "shut(s) the smarks up".
My take on this particular instance, is I really don't want to hear ten chants throughout the RR. I don't want to see the guy fired because his gimmick caught on, either. That seems very counterproductive.
I'm not sure if there is a solution here that is going to work. People are going to be upset regardless. And naturally they will complain on the internet afterwards, because that's what they do.
Oh well.
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Post by rocketking on Jan 23, 2017 12:18:36 GMT -5
I'm not sure if there is a solution here that is going to work. People are going to be upset regardless. And naturally they will complain on the internet afterwards, because that's what they do. Oh well. Yup. Sort of agreeing with the conversation from the LAW last night... you have to weigh the pros and cons of putting Dillinger at #10. Essentially, will putting him in there do more harm or good in terms of crowd service, not getting the match hijacked, not stepping on any angles and not screwing up any potential plans for Dillinger. But in the long run, you're right. Somebody's going to be mad no matter what they do. Can't wait to talk about it on Sunday night!
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Post by deezy on Jan 23, 2017 16:32:57 GMT -5
If I'm being completely honest about my feelings about disengenous wrestling fans who do nothing but complaints, keep watching and giving the company they claim to hate money in order to make chants in order to get Twitter followings off it is this. Do it....Just do it. Is that harsh? Absolutely, but it's honestly affecting my own love for pro wrestling and I don't like being lumped in with them, I would rather be lumped in with toothless hillbillies who think it's real than smarks who can't get over themselves enough to actually stop lying and say "it doesn't suck".
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