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Post by Christian Small on Feb 17, 2017 14:26:29 GMT -5
THe non kayfabe reason being no one wanted to see luger wrestle twice on the same night, of course. They did in WCW, he even did wrestle twice at Starrcade 95 with the threat of him doing 3 if he had won the 2nd match. I do like the fact management might have thought: "We really shouldn't have Luger wrestle twice" "But Yoko's fine for double duty right?" "Of course, he'll be better than Luger at least"
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Post by deezy on Feb 20, 2017 19:35:55 GMT -5
Yoko was a great wrestler.
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Post by Christian Small on Feb 21, 2017 13:51:21 GMT -5
Not disputing that. I'm just saying if I'm looking at Luger and Yoko and trying to pick someone to do 2 matches in one night it wouldn't be the near 600 pound guy over the infamously jacked guy.
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Post by deezy on Feb 21, 2017 15:49:55 GMT -5
Ever see strong men contests? Always the pudgy guy who last longer than the muscled up meatheads.....Muscle burns quicker than fat.
I think the real story killer is the champion being put behind the 8 ball in the first place.
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Post by rocketking on Feb 21, 2017 22:11:17 GMT -5
I think the real story killer is the champion being put behind the 8 ball in the first place. Yup, that was my original point. The only guy of the three who had the advantage of not needing to win twice was Bret, who not only wasn't the champ but lost the coin toss between the two challengers.
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Post by siredger on Feb 22, 2017 2:05:45 GMT -5
Speaking of inconsistencies. I think that tonight's Smackdown Live gave us a good example as Naomi relinquished the Smackdown Live Women's Championship due to injury and she couldn't have made her "mandatory 30-day title defense." It was only 4 months ago that Becky Lynch couldn't appear on PPV because of an undisclosed medical issue and she was never asked to forfeit her title. And of course, we're not talking about Brock Lesnar's reign as WWE Champion with his extremely limited schedule when he returned.
So, why don't they always enforce the mandatory 30-day rule? Stuff like that drives me nuts.
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Post by deezy on Feb 22, 2017 5:45:45 GMT -5
Bryan's obviously giving his favorites all kinds of leeway and punishes those who didn't do indies. Look at everyone he is currently feuding with on talking smack. And look at just what he let dean Ambrose get away with.
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Post by rinaldo on Feb 23, 2017 4:38:52 GMT -5
Speaking of inconsistencies. I think that tonight's Smackdown Live gave us a good example as Naomi relinquished the Smackdown Live Women's Championship due to injury and she couldn't have made her "mandatory 30-day title defense." It was only 4 months ago that Becky Lynch couldn't appear on PPV because of an undisclosed medical issue and she was never asked to forfeit her title. And of course, we're not talking about Brock Lesnar's reign as WWE Champion with his extremely limited schedule when he returned. So, why don't they always enforce the mandatory 30-day rule? Stuff like that drives me nuts. ... And this on Black History Month too. WWE is racist, period. ... Just joking.
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Post by Jamie G on Feb 23, 2017 5:49:53 GMT -5
Speaking of inconsistencies. I think that tonight's Smackdown Live gave us a good example as Naomi relinquished the Smackdown Live Women's Championship due to injury and she couldn't have made her "mandatory 30-day title defense." It was only 4 months ago that Becky Lynch couldn't appear on PPV because of an undisclosed medical issue and she was never asked to forfeit her title. And of course, we're not talking about Brock Lesnar's reign as WWE Champion with his extremely limited schedule when he returned. So, why don't they always enforce the mandatory 30-day rule? Stuff like that drives me nuts. Great example. Also sometimes a GM will see an injustice in a finish and restart a match, and other times they are nowhere to be seen.
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Post by rocketking on Feb 23, 2017 9:16:35 GMT -5
Speaking of inconsistencies. I think that tonight's Smackdown Live gave us a good example as Naomi relinquished the Smackdown Live Women's Championship due to injury and she couldn't have made her "mandatory 30-day title defense." It was only 4 months ago that Becky Lynch couldn't appear on PPV because of an undisclosed medical issue and she was never asked to forfeit her title. And of course, we're not talking about Brock Lesnar's reign as WWE Champion with his extremely limited schedule when he returned. So, why don't they always enforce the mandatory 30-day rule? Stuff like that drives me nuts. Great example. Also sometimes a GM will see an injustice in a finish and restart a match, and other times they are nowhere to be seen. The funny thing is that on Talking Smack, Bryan gave the perfectly reasonable explanation that sometimes a champion is given more time to recover from injury, but that they couldn't risk the title being on the shelf for Wrestlemania. Why couldn't that be the explanation on the show that an exponentially higher number of fans watched?
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Post by Jamie G on Feb 23, 2017 9:52:07 GMT -5
I think the thing to always remember about WWE in particular but not exclusively, is that it's consistently inconsistent.
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Post by rinaldo on Feb 23, 2017 10:27:54 GMT -5
Speaking of inconsistencies. I think that tonight's Smackdown Live gave us a good example as Naomi relinquished the Smackdown Live Women's Championship due to injury and she couldn't have made her "mandatory 30-day title defense." It was only 4 months ago that Becky Lynch couldn't appear on PPV because of an undisclosed medical issue and she was never asked to forfeit her title. And of course, we're not talking about Brock Lesnar's reign as WWE Champion with his extremely limited schedule when he returned. So, why don't they always enforce the mandatory 30-day rule? Stuff like that drives me nuts. Great example. Also sometimes a GM will see an injustice in a finish and restart a match, and other times they are nowhere to be seen. Exactly. Bayley was asked to relinquish her title de to interference but what about Dana interfeering on Charlotte's behalf prior to Sasha's?
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Post by rocketking on Feb 23, 2017 10:38:51 GMT -5
I think the thing to always remember about WWE in particular but not exclusively, is that it's consistently inconsistent. My brother and I used to joke about trying to write down the Royal Rumble rules. Remember in 1996 when Vader came back in after being eliminated and tossed eventual-winner HBK, but it didn't count? That's probably happened at least a dozen times since. For that reason and others I feel like the WWE rule book will be a wild disappointment, but I still consider it a "must read".
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Post by Jamie G on Feb 23, 2017 10:59:14 GMT -5
I think the thing to always remember about WWE in particular but not exclusively, is that it's consistently inconsistent. My brother and I used to joke about trying to write down the Royal Rumble rules. Remember in 1996 when Vader came back in after being eliminated and tossed eventual-winner HBK, but it didn't count? That's probably happened at least a dozen times since. For that reason and others I feel like the WWE rule book will be a wild disappointment, but I still consider it a "must read". Yeah that's a minefield! How the hell was Miz allowed to throw Cena out of the battle royal on SD after he'd been eliminated? It's because battle royals are no DQ. Fine, the first man in should take a chair and kendo stick in and batter the fuck out of everyone then. It's no DQ.
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Post by Jamie G on Feb 23, 2017 11:07:40 GMT -5
Jericho sat out for about 15 mins in the Rumble, hiding next to the ring while all the other mugs fought inside. Why didn't he just stay out until the last person is left, like Rusev did that time?
Surely there should be a rule that if you stay out for longer than 30 seconds then you're DQ'd. Oh wait, there's no DQ's.
And why do some people sprint to the ring? I'd crawl to the ring so it took me 40 mins to get there. No rules against that.
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