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Post by deezy on Sept 30, 2016 18:57:26 GMT -5
Heyman had a guaranteed job if his company closed.
Dixie don't, unless Papa Carter is willing to let her intern.
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Post by gerardgerard on Sept 30, 2016 18:59:30 GMT -5
Reports of TNA's demise has become the corporate equivalent of Dolph Ziggler's character arc:
"Almost there...almost there.....al...most...theree.....lulznevermindwhatevs."
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Post by thelaw on Oct 5, 2016 13:53:43 GMT -5
There is a new rumor that says the WWE is going to buy TNA's tape library. However, this same rumor says the wrestling promotion will not close. Instead, Billy Corgan will buy the wrestling operations, rebrand the company, and continue as an active promotion.
So in the end, WWE owns the TNA library and probably the name TNA. TNA will technically not exist anymore. Billy Corgan's new promotion will be using what was TNA but is going to call themselves something else.
If the above happens, I am sure Dixie would be happy getting money from 2 sources and having the promotion still in exist is some form.
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Post by Jamie G on Oct 5, 2016 16:31:04 GMT -5
I love the fact that someone voted for "What is TNA?".
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Post by gerardgerard on Nov 1, 2016 10:58:30 GMT -5
Guessing this will have to do for an "all purpose TNA business thread" but TNA have lost their UK television home. prowrestling.net/site/2016/11/01/tna-losing-uk-television-deal-tna-response/Few things: 1. It might explain as to why TNA never booked the always reliable UK tour for 2017 (well, numbers have been dwindling anyways) as Challenge did foot a lot of that bill. 2. The Free-to-Air Challenge was a boon as it was the one of the few places in the world where TNA technically had more exposure than WWE. 3. TNA's reasoning is curious, in that they wanna avoid spoilers for the UK market, but, yeah, it's a taped show, so, yeah.....
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Post by kalgoroth on Nov 1, 2016 12:27:16 GMT -5
That reason by TNA is obviously complete bullshit and clearly some attempt at spin to hide what is likely a less flattering reason. I would be intrigued to know what their numbers are on Challenge. It isn't likely to be a widely-watched channel as it is given the majority of their content is reruns of 1980s British quiz shows (hence the name), I can't for the life of me see why there was such a delay in any case given that fact, no other program they have is exactly a higher priority and could have easily been bumped if that were actually the issue. If in fact they have been dropped then it isn't a great sign. If not I am struggling to see who would a) want them b) would benefit them more, unless they are being offered more money to go behind a paywall.
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Post by Christian Small on Nov 1, 2016 13:12:57 GMT -5
I think them being on Challenge was similar to when they were on Spike. The core group they always got knew were the show was and would always view it but they'd rarely get new viewers. If TNA have lost this UK market I think it says so much about TNA and how it's fallen but that market was probably they're most die hard fans, so to turn them off means they've messed up somewhere.
There's also no real other channel that would pick that up outside of Sky Sports and they won't touch it. I mean no other channel fits wrestling, that comes to mind. Maybe for shits and giggles ITV since they ran World of Sport back in the day.
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Post by kalgoroth on Nov 1, 2016 13:20:52 GMT -5
I think them being on Challenge was similar to when they were on Spike. The core group they always got knew were the show was and would always view it but they'd rarely get new viewers. If TNA have lost this UK market I think it says so much about TNA and how it's fallen but that market was probably they're most die hard fans, so to turn them off means they've messed up somewhere. There's also no real other channel that would pick that up outszide of Sky Sports and they won't touch it. I mean no other channel fits wrestling, that comes to mind. Maybe for shits and giggles ITV since they ran World of Sport back in the day. Except for ITV are looking at potentially bringing WoS back. There's a taping in Manchester tonight for a one-off special to air in the new year, would be foolish to think if it's a success they wouldn't bring it back full time. Maybe Channel 5? They used to show WCW highlights in the latter days. Would be fitting too if it also turned out to be the last UK home of TNA before it went under as well!
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Post by Christian Small on Nov 1, 2016 13:55:33 GMT -5
I think them being on Challenge was similar to when they were on Spike. The core group they always got knew were the show was and would always view it but they'd rarely get new viewers. If TNA have lost this UK market I think it says so much about TNA and how it's fallen but that market was probably they're most die hard fans, so to turn them off means they've messed up somewhere. There's also no real other channel that would pick that up outszide of Sky Sports and they won't touch it. I mean no other channel fits wrestling, that comes to mind. Maybe for shits and giggles ITV since they ran World of Sport back in the day. Except for ITV are looking at potentially bringing WoS back. There's a taping in Manchester tonight for a one-off special to air in the new year, would be foolish to think if it's a success they wouldn't bring it back full time. Maybe Channel 5? They used to show WCW highlights in the latter days. Would be fitting too if it also turned out to be the last UK home of TNA before it went under as well! Yeah I heard about the recording, I'm interested to see how they do World of Sport in this day of age. Although I don't know how well it will go, I'm sure what time & time it'll air will play a big factor as well. Shame we don't have Bravo any more, they had ECW and then WCW over the years. Channel 5 could bite on it but think it'd likely be more an extra channel that we get on Freeview etc. Don't see a mainstream channel grabbing it. Also what kind of a piss poor excuse is "avoiding spoilers". It didn't bother them the past 5 plus years why would it now? Plus wrestling is one of those things were spoilers can help, just look at the night Mankind beat the Rock. Plus TNA tape months in advance, by the time the episode airs you've forgotten about the spoilers you've read.
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Post by gerardgerard on Nov 1, 2016 14:11:20 GMT -5
Curious as to the situation with Challenge. Sky took over Bravo and rebranded, therefore TNA was moved to another Sky-owned channel in Challenge as to honour the contract, I'd imagine. Was it a case of Sky never intending to renew TNA due to their WWE commitments, or does WWE's Sky exclusivity gig only apply to Sky Sports (and the Sky One magazine shows)?
Instead, is it legitimately the case that TNA's dwindling UK ratings lead to the chop? If I recall correctly, the biggest TNA ever drew on Challenge was 200,000-ish, but have been around the 100,000-ish mark for a while. It's become meme-fodder that "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?" repeats consistently outdraw TNA.
A curious situation all-round, and it's difficult to research as the bigger wrestling-news outlets tend not to go too in-depth with UK and Ireland stuff.
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Post by Christian Small on Nov 1, 2016 14:47:28 GMT -5
Curious as to the situation with Challenge. Sky took over Bravo and rebranded, therefore TNA was moved to another Sky-owned channel in Challenge as to honour the contract, I'd imagine. Was it a case of Sky never intending to renew TNA due to their WWE commitments, or does WWE's Sky exclusivity gig only apply to Sky Sports (and the Sky One magazine shows)? Instead, is it legitimately the case that TNA's dwindling UK ratings lead to the chop? If I recall correctly, the biggest TNA ever drew on Challenge was 200,000-ish, but have been around the 100,000-ish mark for a while. It's become meme-fodder that "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?" repeats consistently outdraw TNA. A curious situation all-round, and it's difficult to research as the bigger wrestling-news outlets tend not to go too in-depth with UK and Ireland stuff. I think the Sky contract for WWE to be the only wrestling on Sky Sports. Sky on the whole has never swayed away from picking up wrestling on it's channels. Eurosport showed New Japan for a few years and they even introduced "The Wrestling Channel" around the 03/04 time, which originally aired the weekly TNA PPVs. They've also picked up random UK indies and put them on random channels over the years as well. I completely forgot TNA was on Bravo originally. I'm not gonna lie, it's been a really long time since I've interacted with Sky and it's channels.
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Post by gerardgerard on Nov 1, 2016 15:25:59 GMT -5
I was referring to Sky's network of television channels instead of Sky's broadcast services itself (as in Sky Q+ or whatever they're calling now), as the latter needs to invite as many channels as possible to be viable, while the former needs to lock down content as to make itself viable. That is, they're different for-profit enterprises under the same corporate umbrella. It's known that Sky has an exclusivity deal with WWE, as Sky tried to enforce it when the network was launching over here, but was curious if WWE returned the favour in seeking that Sky cannot actively pursue other wrestling products for use on Sky-branded channels under the terms of the agreement. I mean, such a stipulation wouldn't be unknown for McMahon-led enterprises.
I loved The Wrestling Channel for a while. Suffered a bit from just throwing products out there cold, but it was just so novel having this glut with TNA, MLW, 3PW, ROH, CZW, not to mention the puro and lucha stuff they'd localize.
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Post by john casey on Nov 1, 2016 17:03:02 GMT -5
With all the stories about dodgy deals, court injunctions, i think that this was the excuse that Challenge wanted to cancel TNA. I'm kind of hoping that Challenge strike a deal with ROH and/or Lucha Underground. I wouldn't be shocked if other international markets started to cancel TNA as well.
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Post by deezy on Nov 1, 2016 20:50:14 GMT -5
TNA didn't even offer a decent excuse.
Die already.
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Post by SwankyFrank on Nov 3, 2016 17:46:14 GMT -5
Seems likely that Fight Network's piece keeps getting bigger and bigger. Interesting stuff
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