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Post by rocketking on Sept 20, 2016 10:23:04 GMT -5
Predictions, comments, suggestions, whatever else. Have at it, friends.
My quick picks:
Kevin Owens d. Seth Rollins: Or at least, Owens leaves as champ one way or another. I'm still very much looking forward to the match, but I would be much more interested in the finish if it wasn't Owens' first pay-per-view title defense.
Gallows/Anderson d. New Day: It's time. I hate using this term, but I think Doc and Karl are officially buried if New Day retains here.
Sasha Banks d. Charlotte and Bayley: I'm not a fan of the idea of flipping the strap again, but (if I recall correctly) Sasha would still be the champ in the first place if she didn't get hurt before Summerslam. The belt needs to be on a babyface before the inevitable Nia Jax title program. Also, I feel like they could get mileage out of Charlotte have a bunch of title reigns like Ric, which of course means dropping the belt a lot as well.
Chris Jericho d. Sami Zayn: Jericho always wins the first match of the series. I'll put my pick in now for Zayn getting the dub in the rematch at No Mercy.
Roman Reigns d. Rusev: If Reigns doesn't eventually come away as the US Champ, then I have no idea what the point of this program ever was.
Cesaro d. Sheamus: I'm not convinced that it will matter, but I'd prefer that Cesaro win.
T.J. Perkins d. Brian Kendrick: But wouldn't it be the most Vince thing ever to immediately switch the belt to Kendrick?
Nia Jax d. Alicia Fox: Maybe she loses by DQ for doing something "monster heel-y", but otherwise this is presumably just a squash.
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Post by Christian Small on Sept 20, 2016 12:25:44 GMT -5
Much like Backlash this doesn't feel like a must watch show but I don't doubt it'll be a good show in ring. I pretty much agree with all your picks except for Banks winning, I'm going with Charlotte retaining pinning Bayley so we'll get Charlotte/Banks at the next PPV where Banks will win the title back.
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Post by rocketking on Sept 20, 2016 12:47:14 GMT -5
Much like Backlash this doesn't feel like a must watch show but I don't doubt it'll be a good show in ring. I pretty much agree with all your picks except for Banks winning, I'm going with Charlotte retaining pinning Bayley so we'll get Charlotte/Banks at the next PPV where Banks will win the title back. If I was betting on these, this would be the pick I'd be least likely to actually put money on... and not just because it's a three-way dance. My thought is that Sasha wins after Dana screws up. Then we get Sasha/Nia and Charlotte/Dana with Bayley and Paige (doing her share of "sorry I got suspended" jobs) serving as opponents and/or tag partners as needed.
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Post by RKing85 on Sept 20, 2016 23:42:58 GMT -5
Kevin Owens to retain (no idea how) New Day to retain Charlotte to retain Jericho over Zayn Reigns to win via countout or dq Cesaro over Sheamus Perkins to retain Jax over Fox
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Post by Christian Small on Sept 21, 2016 9:53:47 GMT -5
Much like Backlash this doesn't feel like a must watch show but I don't doubt it'll be a good show in ring. I pretty much agree with all your picks except for Banks winning, I'm going with Charlotte retaining pinning Bayley so we'll get Charlotte/Banks at the next PPV where Banks will win the title back. If I was betting on these, this would be the pick I'd be least likely to actually put money on... and not just because it's a three-way dance. My thought is that Sasha wins after Dana screws up. Then we get Sasha/Nia and Charlotte/Dana with Bayley and Paige (doing her share of "sorry I got suspended" jobs) serving as opponents and/or tag partners as needed. My thought is Charlotte/Sasha (maybe even inside the Cell to make it special) and Nia/Bayley going forward. Nia has worked with Bayley before and they do mesh well together. Although I could also see Dana/Bayley so that Bayley can get a good win on the main roster.
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Post by RKing85 on Sept 24, 2016 23:40:33 GMT -5
Ugh. forgot Hell in a Cell is next. A match being put inside the Cage for no reason other than that HIAC is on the schedule.
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Post by Christian Small on Sept 25, 2016 1:27:56 GMT -5
That's why I'm suggesting Charlotte/Sasha because there is a long feud there that does make the cell mean something or at least more than you usually does.
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Post by rocketking on Sept 25, 2016 8:20:42 GMT -5
That's why I'm suggesting Charlotte/Sasha because there is a long feud there that does make the cell mean something or at least more than you usually does. In terms of current feuds, Charlotte/Sasha makes the most sense. Not to mention that WWE loves to promote "first-time ever" matches, especially when it comes to the Women's division. I've been referring to Charlotte/Sasha as the next Cena/Orton feud and meaning it to be a compliment. If we get them again next month (not to mention in a half-dozen tags and non-title matches in the buildup), I'm afraid it might become the next Cena/Orton feud in all of the wrong ways. Anyway, assuming the Universal Championship will also be a Hell in a Cell match, I would guess that means we're getting some kind of indecisive finish tonight to setup the rematch. Making the safe bet that Brock isn't in the equation, I guess the other logical option would be Reigns/Rusev. Either that or we're getting Zayn/Owens in a cell, which I disagree with for storyline reasons but will not complain one iota about getting to watch.
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Post by Christian Small on Sept 25, 2016 8:42:57 GMT -5
Problem with the women's division on Raw is that there's nothing there outside of the 3 in the match tonight. Foxx means nothing and Nia should be kept away from the title picture until she's heated up as a monster and we've established a babyface champ. I think you hit the nail on the head when you compared it to Cena/Orton could even throw in Triple H into that series, they were never really horrendous or even bad matches but they were done so often that we all stopped caring. While Smackdown's women's division isn't much better you can at least believe that any of the current 5 could challenge Becky on a show.
Zayn/Owens would make the most sense if they hadn't done "the last time ever" just before the draft but they already broke that on Raw a couple weeks back. I think they'll do Owens/Rollins/Reigns but that's another Triple threat match on a PPV, that would be doing too many of them. Depending on how tonight goes I'd be OK with Owens/Rollins especially if Triple H causes the finish and this is Foley's way to make it fair.
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Post by eoinkillackey on Sept 25, 2016 9:56:50 GMT -5
I know it's been said before, but for me, a much better fit was Cruisers on Smackdown, and female superstars on Raw... That being said, the SmackDown female superstars are benefiting from new found exposure!
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Post by Christian Small on Sept 25, 2016 13:30:47 GMT -5
Honestly I think Smackdown are handling their women's and tag division much better than Raw. It feels like they have a ton of potential contenders while Raw has no variety, I mean what do you do after New Day/Gallows & Gun? I can't think of another team on Raw ready to challenge, maybe Cass & Enzo if the titles switch.
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Post by RKing85 on Sept 25, 2016 14:13:03 GMT -5
I'll be here tonight if anyone wants to chat during the show.
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Post by RKing85 on Sept 25, 2016 19:29:42 GMT -5
No pop what so ever for Kendrick. Like I said earlier this week, I don't think many people remember/care about Brian Kendrick. The WWE greatly over estimated how much people would remember him.
Even by WWE standards, it's amazing how quickly and how low they have buried Gallows and Anderson. Can Gallows please be put in the NXT beginners class where he belongs?
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Post by deezy on Sept 25, 2016 22:51:08 GMT -5
Show was good from top to bottom, only real sore spot is that ending to Cesaro and Sheamus, would've been more believable if they did that exact ending when Cesaro dropped himself on his head.
Suicide dives are dumb as fuck when you have a move you can constantly hit safely like he did in the spinning crossbow over the ropes.
Other than that, Reigns and Rusev had a great match(go figure another one) Jericho and Sami was good, rest were passable.
I did find it funny...not funny "haha" more odd....that a guy who was supposedly not over, getting bigger reactions than the mainevent between two guys that are supposed to be more over than Roman Reigns.
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Post by RKing85 on Sept 25, 2016 23:15:24 GMT -5
yeah, they definitely should have called an audible on the fly and ended with that Cesaro dive. But the WWE in 2016 is to scripted to change on the fly.
I might be the only person in the world who is okay with Charlotte as women's champ. Sasha can win the title in another month or two, and then Bayley can win it from her at Wrestlemania.
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