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Post by RKing85 on Sept 18, 2015 23:19:33 GMT -5
also the slingshot off the second rope into a clothesline. Ambrose does it, and McGuinness before him. Makes no sense.
Always hate any move where you go against your own momentum to deliver the move. Cena's springboard stunner and Jay Lethal's Lethal Injection are two examples of this. I mean c'mon, grade 2 science class tells you these moves are not effect uses of gravity.
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Post by Zekey on Sept 19, 2015 14:36:42 GMT -5
The Dean Ambrose rope trick is sooo forced.
When the dirty heels are in a match and do something bad, then commentary says something like: "they're acting like heels". Breaking the 4th wall is nrver okay in the middle of a match
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Post by deezy on Sept 19, 2015 21:05:57 GMT -5
If we're going to bring in outside forces like commentary, then shoot.....fans who try hijack matches make me stop paying attention. It's like fans these days are more about the stupid chants than they are about popping, I feel as that's the reason why crowds are not as loud as they used to be, far too busy waiting on a chant to join into to really pay attention to what's going on inside that ring.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 12:14:31 GMT -5
That's what I mean by idiot fans. People try to feel like the stars. A match should fail of its own accord without the fans pushing it to shit. I'm never thrilled to see any Sheamus vs Orton match, but they always have me interested by the end. People sitting in front of me more interested in watching a match or concert through their phone.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 19:48:28 GMT -5
WWE finishes. More than the timekeeper calling for the bell because he's suddenly a ref. Tonight there's been an eye-rake which cheating is somewhat acceptable, but the shoe in front of a ref is bullshit. Anyone up on the ring apron should be interference. Every time a fan runs in and its not a DQ, but a wrestler is a DQ.
Let's not forget the referee's decision is final, unless management doesn't like it. Then Steph can come out and make a decision that she doesn't bother with other wrestlers. Then there's HHH back in the day striking his loss of the title to Y2J as off the record.
I'm looking forward to seeing how WWE slithers out of a real Hell in the Cell finish.
Here's another thing that takes me out of the match and that's a trombone on the outside. I was a big fan of New Day for the comedy, but now they're just up their own ass and jumped the shark and I lost all interest in a match I had a lot of going in.
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Post by Jay on Sept 20, 2015 20:13:44 GMT -5
Every mid carder, jobber and their grandma kicking out of every single finisher over and over again during the middle of a RAW. That needs to be special for big main event matches where two wrestlers are actually built up to be rivals of equal strength.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 21:17:57 GMT -5
My son just said a damn good one. If punching is allowed in pro wrestlers, why don't guys just punch all the time, knock out the other guy and pin them? That's what MMA does he added.
It makes sense. I tried to explain it that their arms are too big and muscular and would get tired.
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Post by RKing85 on Sept 20, 2015 22:19:47 GMT -5
doctor stoppages mid match.
Even if legit (like apparently in Rollins/Sting tonight), it completely kills the match for me.
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Post by deezy on Sept 20, 2015 23:08:01 GMT -5
Not sure why doctors stoppages are one, they do it in boxing and MMA for cuts. Liberties can be taken in kayfabe context for injuries.
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Post by TolerancEJ on Sept 21, 2015 12:14:18 GMT -5
For me, immediately coming to my mind are:
Wrestler B runs at Wrestler A. "A" ducks, pulling down the top rope and "B" sails over the top & falls to the floor.
In many Chris Jericho's matches, the spot when Chris applies the Walls of Jericho and the opponent escapes by rolling over. Chris oversells the escape, flipping 360 degrees himself. Jericho has a great wrestling mind. He must be able to come up with a more believable escape for his own submission hold.
I also have to agree with some of the fans that try to capture the attention for themselves.
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Post by thesilentr on Sept 21, 2015 14:23:33 GMT -5
commercial breaks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2015 18:00:18 GMT -5
Network or nothing. I've loved it so much.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2015 18:05:33 GMT -5
doctor stoppages mid match. Even if legit (like apparently in Rollins/Sting tonight), it completely kills the match for me. While I understand possible medical stoppages are a real issue, my WWE main even bullshit meter was on high last night. I thought that would be the finish, Sting fainted and has to be stretchered out in a HBK 90s sort of way raising concern and giving a talking point. Sting doesn't lose just like Brock didn't and that Ambrose thing and the Brock vs Taker. All the shit finishes last night I think helped give gravitas to Charlotte's win. That match and other matches like it where someone sells 100% of the match makes me predict the winner as the other person.
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Post by daryl on Sept 22, 2015 23:09:38 GMT -5
Anytime the announcers or the crowd seem disinterested in the match going on in the ring. To me it's like watching a sporting event in a half empty arena. If the people there don't care, then why should I?
Big guys doing cruiserweight spots and small guys doing big power spots. The novelty has worn off for me.
Commercial breaks. Just gives me a chance to switch over to Monday Night Football and possibly stay there.
Any kind of distraction finish.
Dolph Ziggler.
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Post by golbraith on Sept 23, 2015 16:59:40 GMT -5
"This is awesome" Chants JBL saying 'shades of' Michael Cole reading Twitter quotes verbatim.
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