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Post by Blaine Van Der Griend on Apr 22, 2012 15:28:50 GMT -5
Well everyone is likely to have their own opinion on this, but let me just get the ball rolling...
1) Samoa Joe - It's starting to sound like a broken record now, but he is one of the most underutilized guys in professional wrestling. Even though he's in a much better position now than he was six months ago, he still deserves so much better, and it's hard to believe that he was at one time, the most talked about guy in pro wrestling.
2) The Pope D'Angelo Dinero - Say what you will about his gimmick, but when motivated, this man cuts fantastic promos (think back to early 2010). He blew me away each time with his natural charisma and also surprised me, because they never really capitalized on his mic skills in the WWE and really dropped the ball with him in TNA. Plus, he does have decent ring work, so I don't what is holding him back.
3) Austin Aries - Having met him in person, I can't say I'm his biggest supporter, as I don't like the man personally. I really think he's an arrogant jerk to be honest with you. But I do know talent when I see it, and this guy is one of the most talented guys in the business, so based on that alone, he deserves a main event push.
4) Magnus - This guy has improved by leaps and bounds since his 2009 debut to the present day. His mic skills are great, and his ring work is still improving each day.
5) AJ Styles - I don't care what anyone says, because there have been a lot of false claims in the past, but this is the guy that I really think put TNA on the map. I was a casual fan of TNA when it started and would watch it maybe once a month, but I remember one time I was waiting in line to buy movie tickets and these two guys in front of me were talking wrestling, and I was surprised that they were actually talking about TNA. But they weren't talking about Jeff Jarrett or Kevin Nash or some of the other well known stars. They were talking about the incredible match that AJ Styles had on the previous episode. This was in 2003, which I think speaks volumes about what this guy means to the promotion and how they completely dropped the ball with him since then.
6) Matt Morgan - He is perhaps the best big man in the business today and his mic work is great. Unfortunately, like many others, he has not been utilized the right way and it's about time he gets a chance to prove himself in the main event mix against someone other than Mr. Anderson this time.
7) Alex Shelley - It shocked me when they did nothing with him since Sabin got injured. He had a brief program with Austin Aries, which went nowhere and he's basically in the exact same position he was a year ago. His mic skills and ring skills are equally impressive and he deserves so much better.
8) Eric Young - He is one of the most talented guys in this company, which I think is why he's still around. The downside is that he's been given so many terrible programs over the last few years, that it's nearly impossible to take him seriously.
9)Frankie Kazarian - I don't know why he shaved his head, as he had such a unique look and they really could have given him a pretty boy/casanova gimmick and I truly believe he could have taken off with it. He really impressed when he was in that Ultimate X match in 2007, but his ring work has never been the issue I guess.
10) Chris Sabin - He's been busting his ass for 9 years in this company, so he really deserves to move to that next level. Even though his mic skills aren't as good as Shelley's, I think he's the better in-ring performer.
Keep in mind that all these guys I've just mentioned are potential challengers for Bobby Roode. I think Roode is the best thing going in TNA right now and I don't think he should lose the title, until they establish someone worthy enough to take it from him. Storm was a worthy challenger, but ultimately, I think Roode is at a higher level than Storm, which is why I don't have a problem with him going over at Lockdown.
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Post by Lee Russell on Apr 23, 2012 5:37:13 GMT -5
I agree with you list except for one guy. Matt Morgan? No bloody way. In my opinion, if he's proven anything it's how little he's actually improved in the ring during his TNA run. Also his raspy, 45 year old female who has smoked two packs a day, voice annoys the hell out of me every time I see that dumb commercial he's in. There's a lot of big men who are better.
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Post by stevekasan on Apr 23, 2012 9:03:10 GMT -5
As a potential challenger for Roode, I agree with Lee in taking out Morgan and put in RVD. I don't know why but I still think, with the right person, the old RVD can come back rejuvenated with a feud with Roode.
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Post by yaknow on Apr 23, 2012 9:47:39 GMT -5
As far as big man workers go Morgan is nowhere near as good as Mark Henry but I suppose he could still be underutilized. As for Samoa Joe I do think the guy can be rehabbed but don't ignore that he has been awful in singles matches over the last couple years and gets tired very easily. His own performance is a factor in where he finds himself.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2012 9:55:36 GMT -5
1) Push Hogan over the top floor of a building.
2) Push Gunner in front of a train.
3) Push Morgan into a woodchipper.
4) Push Crimson into a pool of acid.
5) Push Anderson out of a plane with no parachute.
6) Push Eric Young into a burning stove.
7) Push Winter into gunfire.
8) Push Eric Bi****ff into a Coffin and bury him alive.
9) Push Robbie E into a used syringe.
10) Push Garrett into a swamp full of alligators.
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Post by quickstrike83 on Apr 23, 2012 10:15:59 GMT -5
they need an overhaul. wcw guys need to go and id like to see some other independent guys like last year around destination x time.
clean finishes would help too. people cant get behind roll ups and DQ's, convincing victories please!
also having swerves behind a swerve that turns into another swerve to explain the last swerve, is not good tv. they are looking for ratings spikes and obviously its not happening. only in this company are swerves so expected they arent actually serves anymore, they are business as usual.
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Post by The Pod-Father! on Apr 23, 2012 15:16:40 GMT -5
Keep in mind that all these guys I've just mentioned are potential challengers for Bobby Roode. I think Roode is the best thing going in TNA right now and I don't think he should lose the title, until they establish someone worthy enough to take it from him. Storm was a worthy challenger, but ultimately, I think Roode is at a higher level than Storm, which is why I don't have a problem with him going over at Lockdown. Solid list, I agree with all of them except for Kaz & EY. As far as Storm goes, I think he & Roode are at similar levels. I didn't have a problem with Roode going over though...Because that crowd didn't deserve to see the title change hands. That being said, I fully ecpect to see Storm-Roode II at Bound For Glory. I agree with you list except for one guy. Matt Morgan? No bloody way. In my opinion, if he's proven anything it's how little he's actually improved in the ring during his TNA run. Also his raspy, 45 year old female who has smoked two packs a day, voice annoys the hell out of me every time I see that dumb commercial he's in. There's a lot of big men who are better. Morgan's definitely one of the best big men out there. After Taker & Claudio I think it's Morgan (in terms of all-around ability). The Crimson fued has taken a lot of steam away from the guy...But he's still pretty talented. The guy's got a good look, he can cut a decent "real athlete"-style promo, and he's a solid worker (for a big man). He had an awesome fued with Angle in 2009, and then the bookers just dropped the ball with him. |
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Post by Blaine Van Der Griend on Apr 23, 2012 18:38:51 GMT -5
I can see your point with Kaz, Nate, especially now since he has a generic look. But for EY, I think he has that Santino likability thing going for him and I always think back to when he was with World Elite. He was such a convincing heel, which was surprising to me, because he's always been a good babyface. However, my point is that he's proven that he can be serious in the past, and his ring skills are far superior to Santino's. It's just a shame that he's been part of so many terrible angles over the last few years.
As for the Storm/Roode thing, I don't think they have the patience to wait that long for the rematch. I'm thinking the title switch might happen at Slammiversary instead, since it's the 10-year anniversary. Besides, if they were to wait for BFG, they really need to establish some top heels and top faces between now and then to get both guys ready for that match. Because it seems like they've gone through all the possibilities for each guy to feud with and now, it seems like the same people are being recycled back to the title picture. The problem with TNA is that they rarely book any long-term feuds and there really is no advancement with feuds from one ppv to the next. They just start, continue and end.
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Post by stevekasan on Apr 23, 2012 20:17:23 GMT -5
Roode-Storm II is definitely the plan for BFG if things go well.
Until then, all these guys are good opponents for Roode, and Storm, to build them up until they pull the trigger.
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Post by Lee Russell on Apr 24, 2012 5:39:01 GMT -5
Gotta disagree, Nate. He's an okay worker, and part of the blame is on TNA for not using him properly, but Angle can make anyone look better than they are. Everything Morgan does screams generic WWE-style big man to me. I don't think he can be rehabilitated by the company at this point. Maybe he should go to Japan and come back as the "Mongolian Monster" or something.  |
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Post by The Pod-Father! on Apr 24, 2012 10:36:54 GMT -5
Gotta disagree, Nate. He's an okay worker, and part of the blame is on TNA for not using him properly, but Angle can make anyone look better than they are. Everything Morgan does screams generic WWE-style big man to me. I don't think he can be rehabilitated by the company at this point. Maybe he should go to Japan and come back as the "Mongolian Monster" or something. Fair enough, I just think TNA is squandering a guy with star potential in a meaningless feud. I know a lot of fans didn't like his "athlete with a brain" style of promos...But I thought it was refreshing. The concussion angle with Morgan, Foley, and Anderson didn't really pay off...But I'd place a lot of that blame on having an unlikeable protagonist (Anderson). Nobody cared about him getting a concussion because nobody cares about Anderson at all. As far as Morgan goes, I think the guy has a lot of talent (for a big guy), and most of his lack of relevance is due to booking. It's all about how you position a guy in the fan's eyes. Most big guys are terrible in between the ropes, but you book around that to make them look dominant (see what the WWE did with Mark henry earlier this year). Dude was on fire (relatively speaking) in 2009 (a very solid year for TNA). He was always around the main event scene and consistently put on good matches. He seemed to be a star in the making. Can he be rehabilitaed at this point? Who knows...It'll take some time, and someone with a clear and creative vision for his character. But this is pro wrestling, virtually anyone can get over...It's all about how you build a guy up. |
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Post by Jack on Apr 24, 2012 20:21:19 GMT -5
1. Christopher Daniels
2. AJ Styles
3. Austin Aries
4. Robert Roode
5. Bobby Lashley
6. Kid Kash
7.Bully Ray
8. Former WWE talent released this year
9. Former WWE talent released this year
10. Former WWE talent released this year.
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Post by Gerald Sinstad on Apr 25, 2012 10:32:48 GMT -5
Might as well throw in Al Snow and D Lo as well.
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Post by judeskii on Apr 26, 2012 3:38:41 GMT -5
ok, il give this a shot. top 10 guys to push in tna right now....
1) Jeff Hardy : Not a favourite of mine but he is a former WWE Champion and someone they wanted to push to the moon until he left. Got a unique look and a fanbase.
2) Roode : Comes across as an old school NWA type heel. I didnt think his heel turn would be a success but its been good (in my opinion). Plus hes a "TNA guy", not a guy who couldnt make it in the WWE.
3) Joe : The guy has a unique look also and when motivated hes a star. His heel-face turns over the last few years have in some ways ruined his mystique but a solid push as a monster submission guy could make his believable again
4) Magnus : The guy still has a dreadful name (at least he dropped the Brutus part) but hes solid and can give a good promo. Hes only young too and if given a good program he could be pushed up the card.
5) Abyss : Another guy without the ex-WWE guy stink. Like Joe, they have ruined his character in many ways, not helped by his association with Hogan and the HOF ring storyline. Hes TNAs Kane in a way and with the right storyline he could be a major player once more.
6) Storm :Hes the perfect foil to Roode and they could be a constant road block in each others way. Not liking his current "loss of faith" storyline but a beer drinking, ass kicking hillbilly will always be good to watch.
7) Eric Young
What a waste. Is there not other guys to do the comedy sketches?? Loved the time he was leader of the World Elite, a storyline just dropped thanks to the "new TNA" reboot. The guy is a great wrestler and can deliver decent promos and could fit the technical wrestler title for the company. get someone else to do the comedy.
8) Aries : The guy has great natural charisma and good in ring. Tough Enoughs loss.......
9) Dinero :Needs some repackaging but has all the skills and the look to beome much more for TNA.
10) Hernandez: Dangerous in the ring but the guy is a monster. Of course his appeal to the Mexican market has to be taken into account to.
well this is just my opinion, but certainly id be more likely to tune in if these 10 were getting more TV time and being used right.
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Post by Lee Russell on Apr 26, 2012 7:18:07 GMT -5
A big problem I think is that even the guys they have been building correctly are having a hard time getting any sort of real fan reaction behind them. They either seem to build guys up in feuds for far too long, or they hotshot feuds and the pay-off is almost always a let down (for the record I think the WWE is quite guilty of this, too). The whole company is sort of stalled right now. It seems like the general fan base has no belief in TNA making the correct decisions long-term for any worker, so they don't get behind anyone. When a guy like Joe was destroyed after being built so strong, I lost a lot of faith in TNA being able to keep things on track. How does one screw up Somoa Joe? I didn't think it was possible, but here we are (thankfully, he seems to be getting his mojo back in the tag division). I think Morgan can be put in a spot that can hide his weaknesses, but I fear it would be just a matter of time before he was dropped again or exposed. How many times can you squander a guy before he's got no change of improving and having a legit top run?
I dunno, man. For me he's just never impressed me as a big man worker. He's sort of Psycho Sid without the legit insanity making him interesting. You mentioned Henry. Indeed he was rehabilitated. However, I think he is a much better worker and talker over all. Had he been given his recent push early in his career, well, it would have failed, but Henry silently and very slowly got good in the ring and his promos are awesome. He was a good enough worker and talker to make this latest push work, which is amazing considering his character was also pretty much destroyed for years.
But I could be wrong about Morgan. I really want TNA and everyone in it to do their part and do well. The WWE needs a hot rival to kick them in the arse and start making their product good again as well.
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