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Post by RKing85 on Oct 31, 2017 16:43:31 GMT -5
I can only imagine how many jobs (or maybe not paid jobs, but invitations to join a podcast network) John and Wai have been offered in the last 30 hours. Surely dozens.
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Post by Zekey on Nov 1, 2017 1:57:05 GMT -5
I guess with the media landscape the way it is, stuff like this happens, I just find it troubling that they're apparently going to continue on with the LAW brand with an entirely new group. I guess they own it, but it doesn't seem right. The LAW almost seems like more or a family than a brand, and without Dan, Jason, Wai and John it's just not the LAW. I guess if they own it they can do as they want, and they have been paying John and Wai to produce content... but would have been nice if they had let them take the LAW name, if not the archive. As far as that goes, getting cancelled is par for the course in the LAW's history. Hopefully John keeps it going, he's really been the heart of the operation and turned it into what it's become. Sad to see the name go, but seems like all the surrogates are on board to soldier on, as they always have. Anthem is sitting on the #Broken brand and doing nothing with it. I expect the same will happen for THE LAW. Its not the end of the world. The Basketball Jones podcast were rebranded to The Starters successfully. Wherever the team goes next, I'm looking forward to it. Possible New Names: Live Audio Combat Combat Audio Wrestling Live Ontario Wrestling Squared Circle Audio Live ON Demand - The Lod
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dante
Curtain Jerker
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Post by dante on Nov 1, 2017 6:47:00 GMT -5
Gotta bring back John's audio wrestling show.
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Post by Brad on Nov 1, 2017 7:09:31 GMT -5
I feel lost with nothing to archive....
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Post by Dr Van Nostren on Nov 1, 2017 14:33:04 GMT -5
Brad...I wish you would step back from that ledge my friend! Those stat posts are so epic, I couldn't even read them, no joke. I took one look and was like...fuck Brad, I'm gonna need to sit down with a meal and dive into these. After this has all sunk in and reading the posts, I think Nate has been under represented...let's none of us forget about our boy, TN8...don't hate him cuz of the TNA love. Plus he was almost a Canadian once, so us north of the 49th can love him for that! I love that Nate was just a caller and became a host, kinda like JT the Brick only less famous . What I don't get about corporate entities these days, is sitting on properties. It KINDA makes sense to me for Anthem to sit on the Broken gimmick. Even if they're not gonna make money off marketing it, maybe they just wanna sell it to WWE/Hardys and they haven't reached what sounds like a fair offer. Ok fine, I get that. But the LAW is "worthless"...I say that only in the literal sense. I can't imagine the LAW brings in much money, the ads were almost all just Jason getting out there and bringing companies in, the show didn't generate revenue per episode or anything, so what value does it really hold? It's a 20 year name we all love, and while I'm not suggesting they just GIVE it to "us" I also don't think holding it has any value for Anthem. That said, it IS just a name. I would love to listen to JAWS or Review a Wai (I can't imagine they can own that name since it's Wai and then 2 words), or Canadian Audio Wrestling or anything else. John and Wai Review Raw is just fine by me too. I just want a consistent feed the iTunes model is so great, listening from that facebook link was kinda lame on my phone...but I'll do what it takes to keep listening! In the end these guys are the stars of the show. I could listen to John and Wai review movies, music, wrestling, sports, photoshops, paint dry, pornos, armpit waxes, workout dvds and just about anything else you could think of. Because it's the chemistry between those 2 that really makes the show. It just so happens they both love wrestling the same way we all do which is to say, "oh my god I hate this, why the fuck am I watching this?" kinda way, it's a love hate thing. The Wrestling world loses a little bit by losing this "mainstream" show, but in 2017 I think the mainstream really isn't relevant anymore. If this show was on internet radio, the same people that listen now would listen then, if it were only podcast, same thing. Everything is niche now...so everyone can find exactly what their looking for without consuming a bunch of other bullshit with it. Point being, whatever these guys do, wherever they go, we'll be there, loving every minute of it. My biggest bummer right now is knowing I booked a trip to New Orleans and there won't be a Review a Wai Wrestlemania Meetup in all likelihood. That sucks.
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Post by Dr Van Nostren on Nov 1, 2017 14:43:28 GMT -5
I just had another thought...(I've never posted so much here before lol, sorry folks!) but it was unrelated to the previous post, so I separated it.
This won't ever happen but...
Why wouldn't WWE offer these boys jobs? Hear me out...
We all know advertising isn't what it used to be, neither is publicity. Publicity and advertising doesn't have to be neutered. I think WWE has been in the dark ages on their TV properties with Vince controlling every word on the show, down to ridiculous things like what Justin Roberts leaves the fans with and how Survivor Series is the ONLY time of year now that Raw goes against Smackdown etc. BUT, I think the Network has shown us, they are willing to go beyond that, just not on TV. Everything on the network is still edited, just not with the same lens. The table for 3 episodes are probably not a good barometer because I feel they are the most heavily edited along with Ride Along, but they still offer 4th wall breaks. You look at some of the documentary type stuff they put out and they basically tell you everything that's gone on, minus some of the gory details regarding injuries/surgeries/rehab stints etc.
So, why not keep going into that. Maybe don't "buy" the Law, maybe don't even give these guys full time jobs...but subsidize the shows? You could set ground rules...but keep them nice and loose like "go ahead and criticize everything, make jokes, swear, whatever you want, just no talk about TNA" or something like that. Obviously the wording would need to be better, but I think you guys get what I mean. WWE really hasn't ventured into the podcast sphere and I think trying to jump in now would seem a little desperate and lame and honestly I'm not sure they have anyone with the credibility for it. They could easily just buy up the Austin/Jericho/et al shows and do that, but I think this would be an interesting proposition for them. It's publicity still, and probably on the cheap, it hits directly at some of your most ardent fans, which I know they like to ignore, but this would be a good way to satiate some of those people. I'm not sure what the presentation would be, like, I wouldn't want the shows to change, but they could throw an ad at the front end or whatever, and the guys could plug upcoming PPVs a little more like John used to plug what else is on The Law this week. I think that would be a good step into podcasts for them and plus, it already comes with a fan base built in (which btw, I'd love to see how many of us are listening to this stuff weekly).
I dunno, maybe I'm nuts, just a thought. I think there's some really good guerilla style marketing that goes on these days and while this isn't EXACTLY the same, I think having shows that review your product, in depth, and praises it, while also taking shots at it is a real sweet spot they could get into.
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Jamie G
Mid-Carder
I was at Summerslam '92
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Post by Jamie G on Nov 1, 2017 15:11:34 GMT -5
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Post by elliott316 on Nov 1, 2017 17:05:23 GMT -5
Appreciate the hell out of all you guys.Best podcasts available bar none.
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Post by Chris P. Lettuce on Nov 2, 2017 9:19:13 GMT -5
Dave Meltzer shared some really lovely thoughts about Live Audio Wrestling on Wrestling Observer Radio, while explaining why this situation is happening. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8x-6OsN8bQHis thoughts about Live Audio Wrestling are from 6:57 to 11:36 Meltzer tells some great stories about doing the show for 19 years, including how he used to take a break during dates and/or cut out while at the movies to be on it for about 20 minutes. I liked hearing about how much he loved doing the show and why it was beneficial for both his life and career, helping him just as it helped so many of us. I also thought it was sweet how he mentioned that his kids would always know when it's Sunday based on him having to do the show. They got so used to it as "the deal", and because he's had this routine since before they were born, it's all they know. Such a fascinating, bittersweet reflection on his tenure as part of Live Audio Wrestling's family. It was very nice to hear him compliment John's reporting/work ethic and say he's had a long friendship with Lovranski and would miss talking to him every week.
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Post by pappy97 on Nov 2, 2017 11:07:38 GMT -5
I see the the Raw and SD reviews are continuing.
What about whtsNXT?
Hoping all of these guys land together somewhere to continue these shows. Today is Thursday and not having whtsNXT drop is a kick in the gut.
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Post by T Anthony Auld on Nov 2, 2017 14:53:51 GMT -5
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Jamie G
Mid-Carder
I was at Summerslam '92
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Post by Jamie G on Nov 2, 2017 15:49:10 GMT -5
That makes it an even more bitter pill to swallow. To think that garbage product has robbed us of the LAW family.
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Post by rinaldo on Nov 2, 2017 16:52:52 GMT -5
TNA is like a sick version of the Truman Show.
We've all seen "Truman" come to the world in '02. He was a lovable, youung kid with a life ahead of him and all the opportunities in the world.
Then he discovered pot in '05. Despite starting to sound a little retarded from time to time he still kept on giving us some creative juices that gave us hope for the future. Hey, it's only pot. Every kid does pot but then moves on.
Around '09, "Truman" got in touch with some upper class guys who promised him more pot than he could ever buy. Soon TRuman discovered that coke was way better than pot and not only abandoned his old friends in the 'hood, he also abandoned pot so he could snort all day with his rich, new friends. We kept our hope.
Sdaly, those powerful, rich friends of his revealed themselves to be so out of touch with "the scene" that the only thing they wanted was to lure promising youngsters like "Truman" in their circle just to have someone else to get high with. "Truman" later discovered these friends had no money at all to begin with and found bills upon bills of stuff he didn't even know he had bought.
But the coke was never enough. Once bitten, Truman discovered he needed the fame and the drugs that come with it even if he was never famous to begin with. He fell into a deep depression. The money were over and the only thing left for him was to start borrowing here and there from people he barely knew. He soon found out coke wasn't affordable anymore.
nd now almost 10 years have passed. TRuman is a shell of his former self, doing Heroin in shady motel rooms with the worst of society. Nobody cares about him anymore, not even his stepfather, the one that grew him with love, thinking he would make something of himself one day.
If Truman died it'd be better for everybody, even Truman himself. Yet he still manages to score a buck here and there conning honest people and put people out of a job so he can keep on getting his fix until the day his heart will just explode, leaving a trail of dead souls as his sole testament.
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deezy
Misawa
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Post by deezy on Nov 2, 2017 17:00:49 GMT -5
Coke is always enough.
just saying.
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Post by munstersrebel on Nov 12, 2017 15:47:22 GMT -5
Fyi
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