Wow ... it's been several, several months since I've posted on here and probably far too long since I actively listened to the show on a consistent basis ... but seeing Jason's tweet today about him leaving the show and then discovering that most of the crew got let go was INCREDIBLY devastating. I only discovered the show in 2012 and it helped me through SO MANY times in the car driving to and from work ... being at work ... going on hikes and so on and so on. Hell, my first couple months at my last job are pretty much all wrapped up in listening to the LAW at work. Called in a few times over the last few years and I just always loved listening to them on Sundays. It's going to be really sad not having new episodes to look forward to and especially the post-WrestleMania ones which are always a classic. At my old job that I feverishly listened to the LAW at, I was laid off the week before Thanksgiving last year ... so I know how unexpected blows like this can be, but I really hope they bounce back from all of this.
Go read Dr Van Nostren's post in the second page of this thread ... he captures everything that sucks about this news.
If there's anymore reason to be angry at the failure that is IMPACT Wrestling ... today is more proof. Like most are saying ... should these guys get their own show in the future, we'll be sure to follow.
Post by Alan Jones on Oct 30, 2017 22:55:17 GMT -5
While this is obviously devastating news to hear about anyone losing their job, but I think it's possible to liken it to Bill Simmons and Grantland at ESPN, he left and created The Ringer website, which is one of the fastest growing pop-culture websites in the world. Now John and Wai may not have the sway a Bill Simmons would have but they are definitely as entertaining I think this certainly isn't the end of these guys, they should and will get work, it just may take time for things to seem the way they used to be. A part of me is a little excited to see what happens next, I'm just trying to put a positive spin on this.
Post by Jack Raines on Oct 30, 2017 22:58:51 GMT -5
I've been listening to the LAW since around 2000, when they were on AM 640 and online in "Real Audio". This day has been devastatingly shitty, I hope the guys are able to rebound somewhere new and better than the Fight Network.
It's probably been about only 2 years since I've discovered The LAW. I tried to listen as often as I could. While I didn't always agree with Jason, John and Dan - to the point I could've legit punched them if I could (ok just Mouth ), I still found them entertaining and you could feel the passion in the show.
Words can't describe how disappointed I am right now. I always had a tremendous amount of respect for John Pollock, for Wai Ting and for everyone else involved with the LAW. I know that you guys will bounce back somehow and it'll be much better than ever.
With that said, Anthem is giving us a crash course of "How to miserably fail 101" and "Incompetence 403".
But seriously though, this sucks big time as I have listened to these guys seemingly everyday for the last 5 years. I wonder if they will do A final Review-A-Wai this week or if that is also out the window.
I hope John, Wai, and the rest of the guys read this. I'm unsure of how to contact them at this point (besides twitter, but that's weird).
I first started listening to the LAW right around when Naito won his first G1. John's G1 shows that year were my introduction to the network, and I immediately fell in love. Their shows are actually the reason I listen to podcasts in the first place, I didn't understand their appeal before. Shortly after, wanting more wrestling-based podcasts and podcasts in general, it was clear that the LAW shows are the best quality shows. Clear audio, no weirdos on headsets and skype calls with echos, and all of the personalities brought something unique to the show. With wrestling podcasts, some personalities try to be wrestlers, cut promos, have a character, and that's stupid. The LAW guys do not portray characters (except Agnew )
Anyways, the sheer volume of shows the guys put out made sure that whatever your niche in wrestling was, they covered it. Their JAW and BAW shows, the reviews of indie and puro cards tacked onto the main Sunday show, the historical recap shows, everything had something appealing about it. And then the extra shows, the mania podcasts, the Best/Worst year-end shows, the insane Christmas shows. Think about that, they spent their day calling and annoying all of their friends just as a Christmas present for their fans. I felt like I knew all of these guys, how could I not after listening to them for hours and hours, week in and week out, for years? This is a huge blow to me, but also to them. They LAW was a labor of love, but they also lost their actual jobs at TFN. Listening to the Sunday show, and then reading the news Monday morning, was a shock to me and I can only imagine what a shock it was to the ones involved. The only thing that makes me smile is imagining Agnew going OFF in the office. I have no doubt that they will all easily find new real jobs elsewhere and a new outlet to continue doing shows.
Thanks bud! I will be passing this on to The Flock group
"To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kinda scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus and a clown killed my dad." Jack Handy, Deep Thoughts.
Post by Christian Small on Oct 31, 2017 13:28:57 GMT -5
John and Wai are the only reason I'm even aware of the fight network. I've loved their shows for years. It always gets noted how hard John works and it stuns me to hear that he's gone. I like many will still follow and listen to them, even if it means paying for MLW vip. If they were to go down that route.
Post by Above Average Mike Sanders on Oct 31, 2017 15:07:27 GMT -5
Wow. This is shocking. Haven't quite been listening for the entire 20 years... but I think I go back 18, first listened in 1999 with Big Daddy, and Marek and have continued to follow along as it evolved.
I guess with the media landscape the way it is, stuff like this happens, I just find it troubling that they're apparently going to continue on with the LAW brand with an entirely new group. I guess they own it, but it doesn't seem right. The LAW almost seems like more or a family than a brand, and without Dan, Jason, Wai and John it's just not the LAW.
I guess if they own it they can do as they want, and they have been paying John and Wai to produce content... but would have been nice if they had let them take the LAW name, if not the archive. As far as that goes, getting cancelled is par for the course in the LAW's history.
Hopefully John keeps it going, he's really been the heart of the operation and turned it into what it's become. Sad to see the name go, but seems like all the surrogates are on board to soldier on, as they always have.