pj
Curtain Jerker
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Post by pj on Oct 24, 2017 18:58:17 GMT -5
I meant the demon balor is undefeated in the main roster. Finn's gimmick is that he can be beaten when human and come back for revenge as the demon.
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Post by thebenjamin on Oct 24, 2017 21:11:54 GMT -5
Deflect. Answer the question. 50-year-old Kane is feuding with Braun. Gotta keep that young and fresh talent strong Yeah...learning from an established and respected veteran is sooooo terrible for young and fresh talent. Yeah that 36-year old youngster Finn Balor needs more experience. You still haven’t explained why Balor had to get beat by Kane. Typical talking out of your ass
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Post by thebenjamin on Oct 24, 2017 21:17:17 GMT -5
Do you think a 2mn match would showcase her ? I'm sorry but Asuka does not "kill" people, she kills jobbers and has great matches with solid wrestlers like she did in NXT with Bailey, Ember Moon and others. Again, I understand your opinion and we are not exactly talking from the same perspective. I'm talking about wrestling, you're talking about booking so we can never agree. Don’t you get enough “wrestling” from the other 5 million hours of WWE programming every week? Why not make someone unique? They’ve failed with basically everybody else
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Post by thebenjamin on Oct 24, 2017 21:29:17 GMT -5
Not only that, didn’t Balor rot away in NXT for years to “learn”?
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deezy
Misawa
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Post by deezy on Oct 24, 2017 21:31:57 GMT -5
Yeah...learning from an established and respected veteran is sooooo terrible for young and fresh talent. Yeah that 36-year old youngster Finn Balor needs more experience. You still haven’t explained why Balor had to get beat by Kane. Typical talking out of your ass Balor working a program with Braun? Your shitty outlook on everything must effect your eyes....wipe em and read harder.
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Post by thebenjamin on Oct 24, 2017 22:11:30 GMT -5
So Balor loses to Kane to set up a program with Braun? You’d be perfect on the creative team.
You’re the sensitive one. Any criticism of anything WWE does you seem to take personally. Get some help with that
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deezy
Misawa
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Post by deezy on Oct 25, 2017 2:12:04 GMT -5
Anyone who actually watches instead of basing their shit off others opinions could see that Kane and Braun were going to be a program as soon as the first backstage promo. But whatever....foreigners can't get over without English, they have to play strong style no sell monsters who win in 40 seconds or they're dead in the water. An entire career is made on the debut....time isn't on anyones side in pro wrestling...nope....we're not telling stories here pal
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jak
Jobber
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Post by jak on Oct 25, 2017 3:07:01 GMT -5
Anyone who actually watches instead of basing their shit off others opinions could see that Kane and Braun were going to be a program as soon as the first backstage promo. But whatever....foreigners can't get over without English, they have to play strong style no sell monsters who win in 40 seconds or they're dead in the water. An entire career is made on the debut....time isn't on anyones side in pro wrestling...nope....we're not telling stories here pal You really love arguing with straw men don't you?
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Post by thebenjamin on Oct 25, 2017 10:44:49 GMT -5
Anyone who actually watches instead of basing their shit off others opinions could see that Kane and Braun were going to be a program as soon as the first backstage promo. But whatever....foreigners can't get over without English, they have to play strong style no sell monsters who win in 40 seconds or they're dead in the water. An entire career is made on the debut....time isn't on anyones side in pro wrestling...nope....we're not telling stories here pal You really love arguing with straw men don't you? Yup. That's all the guy does. Deezy - was putting Kane over Balor the right decision? Why book Balor to lose the night after beating Styles when you have dozens of guys backstage doing nothing? It makes zero sense. You said the same shit about Nakamura and look at him now - he means nothing. He went 50/50 with Ziggler, lost to Mahal and has been defined down ever since. They will do the same thing with Asuka.
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deezy
Misawa
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Post by deezy on Oct 25, 2017 13:25:21 GMT -5
You really love arguing with straw men don't you? Yup. That's all the guy does. Deezy - was putting Kane over Balor the right decision? Why book Balor to lose the night after beating Styles when you have dozens of guys backstage doing nothing? It makes zero sense. You said the same shit about Nakamura and look at him now - he means nothing. He went 50/50 with Ziggler, lost to Mahal and has been defined down ever since. They will do the same thing with Asuka. So you're admitting you are a straw man....all I need to know. Who are these dozens of guys who have the same kind of name value and current limbo zone that Balor is? Beating up an Apollo Crews isn't the same, were you complaining when Braun beat the tag team champions two weeks in a row? Or was this just another thread based off nitpicking others opinions. ..again. And Ziggler is a former champion for fuck sakes...just because you can obsess over wins and losses in rasslin like a dork, doesn't mean everyone else does. And Nakamura is still a top babyface..."means nothing" lmao.
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Post by thebenjamin on Oct 25, 2017 13:56:29 GMT -5
Matt Hardy is one. Rhyno or Heath Slater aren't doing anything. Point is why sacrifice someone who just beat AJ Styles clean to get 50-year-old Kane a win??
But hey, WWE is perfect right? Never make any mistakes.
How is Nakamura a top babyface? Is he more over now or when he debuted? Think about it.
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Post by rinaldo on Oct 25, 2017 20:57:55 GMT -5
At this point Nakamura is just a theme song.
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deezy
Misawa
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Post by deezy on Oct 25, 2017 22:18:50 GMT -5
Matt Hardy is one. Rhyno or Heath Slater aren't doing anything. Point is why sacrifice someone who just beat AJ Styles clean to get 50-year-old Kane a win?? But hey, WWE is perfect right? Never make any mistakes. How is Nakamura a top babyface? Is he more over now or when he debuted? Think about it. Matt Hardy is too busy beefing with a WWE seamstress and him getting beat down would look like the company taking a side in that. Nobody gives a fuck about Rhyno or Slater....Nobody. And AJ Styles was a last minute replacement, you don't book outside talent over your own...who's to say Balor was even going to beat Bray here? And labelling me doesn't make your nitpick bitch fit more valid. ...you're just overthinking yourself into being miserable. Why bother watching? Why bother discussing it? If something drive me nuts like it seemingly does you, I'd avoid it. That's what normal people do. It pro wrestling....it's fiction. It goes on and on...it's more than a debut....for fuck sakes we have a world champion who was supposedly a jobber not even 6 months ago. Wins and losses don't matter, it doesn't matter how you're booked...it does t matter if you said something wrong on twitter....only thing that matters is when a promoter wants to push you....simple as that.
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Post by groovyphoenix on Oct 26, 2017 10:11:39 GMT -5
So far the Raw vs AJ had been good, yes he lost, but as Deezy said you don't sink your talent to elevate a visiting one, They did a very good job of making him look strong even in the losses, As for Kane pinning Balor, I didn't mind it, it was FINN after all not The demon, and of course there will be a Demon vs Demon showdown there, all those years of calling people monsters and etc is now catching up they need the "ultimate monster"
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Post by thebenjamin on Oct 26, 2017 11:11:40 GMT -5
Matt Hardy is one. Rhyno or Heath Slater aren't doing anything. Point is why sacrifice someone who just beat AJ Styles clean to get 50-year-old Kane a win?? But hey, WWE is perfect right? Never make any mistakes. How is Nakamura a top babyface? Is he more over now or when he debuted? Think about it. Matt Hardy is too busy beefing with a WWE seamstress and him getting beat down would look like the company taking a side in that. Nobody gives a fuck about Rhyno or Slater....Nobody. And AJ Styles was a last minute replacement, you don't book outside talent over your own...who's to say Balor was even going to beat Bray here? And labelling me doesn't make your nitpick bitch fit more valid. ...you're just overthinking yourself into being miserable. Why bother watching? Why bother discussing it? If something drive me nuts like it seemingly does you, I'd avoid it. That's what normal people do. It pro wrestling....it's fiction. It goes on and on...it's more than a debut....for fuck sakes we have a world champion who was supposedly a jobber not even 6 months ago. Wins and losses don't matter, it doesn't matter how you're booked...it does t matter if you said something wrong on twitter....only thing that matters is when a promoter wants to push you....simple as that. It doesn't drive me nuts. All I want is logic from a TV show. Why treat wrestling different than any movie or show? When you write television based on the whims of a crazy 70-year-old man things won't make sense.
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