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Post by groovyphoenix on Aug 22, 2017 22:04:57 GMT -5
Ok so I'm watching 205 tonight and I see Enzo show up on it...
And then it hit me... This might be stupid of me to say but I saw the genius of splitting them up.
Vince or maybe HHH is handing Enzo a TV show pretty much and he'll help make it or break it...
I know maybe it sounds obvious but this is genius to me because this guy could pull it off, he certainly has the mouth to talk, something 205 lacks big time. He'll be the great baby face to the King of 205 Neville can now be full on heel which I think he excels at.
And Cass can move on into oblivion of the giant man with little hope of being a champ.
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Post by deezy on Aug 22, 2017 22:55:50 GMT -5
Cass said he kept up his charade to see if this deadweight could figure it out....which he didn't It's so "I did it, for da Rock" levels of cornvenience for sure But we can also do some math of our own....what was Cass doing when Enzo was out with that concussion? He was in the main event picture fighting for number one contendership status. Been irrelevant since then. Two could probably feud for awhile, Cass will most likely be lost in the shuffle more than Enzo. Enzo could easily go to the cruiserweight division and be over based on his personality. ...something that division lacks big time.
"Enzo's 2 0 5....what a time to be alive, how you doin'?"
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Post by RKing85 on Aug 22, 2017 23:27:40 GMT -5
it's best for Enzo and it's best for the 205 show.
Makes no difference to me. Still not going to watch 205 Live.
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Post by rinaldo on Aug 23, 2017 7:57:16 GMT -5
Ditch 205 and bring back Super Astros.
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Post by groovyphoenix on Aug 23, 2017 10:18:55 GMT -5
Cass said he kept up his charade to see if this deadweight could figure it out....which he didn't It's so "I did it, for da Rock" levels of cornvenience for sure But we can also do some math of our own....what was Cass doing when Enzo was out with that concussion? He was in the main event picture fighting for number one contendership status. Been irrelevant since then. Two could probably feud for awhile, Cass will most likely be lost in the shuffle more than Enzo. Enzo could easily go to the cruiserweight division and be over based on his personality. ...something that division lacks big time.
"Enzo's 2 0 5....what a time to be alive, how you doin'?"yup you called it, I won't steal your glory, and Cass is a generix big guy so he will be lost in the shuffle enventually. Vinnie and big guys to me it almost seems like Vinnie likes big guys, plays with the shinny new toy and when it gets bruised or hurt he drops them. Enzon will thrive in 205 and might actually be able to make an impact on the show, hell knows he can't make it worse and at least he's not in the land of giants here looking like the little dog jumping over the bulldog...
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Post by thebenjamin on Aug 23, 2017 11:55:34 GMT -5
No one watches 205 Live, won't make a lick of difference. They shouldn't have split up Enzo/Cass because both guys are being horribly exposed for their shortcomings as singles.
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Post by Christian Small on Aug 23, 2017 12:16:39 GMT -5
It makes sense for him to go there but like it's been mentioned it probably won't make a difference. On the plus side he likely won't be working in front of silence like most cruiserweights are doing right now. Cass has shown some potential as a heel but he's been given garbage to work with since splitting from Enzo and now the injury. He might come back with a little extra steam away from Ezno & Show.
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Post by pj on Aug 23, 2017 12:36:41 GMT -5
I think it could make a difference. First, he got quite a big pop on the show. It's good for him and for 205 live. Bringing wrestlers with good mic skills is what the show needs.
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Post by groovyphoenix on Aug 23, 2017 13:13:37 GMT -5
It makes sense for him to go there but like it's been mentioned it probably won't make a difference. On the plus side he likely won't be working in front of silence like most cruiserweights are doing right now. Cass has shown some potential as a heel but he's been given garbage to work with since splitting from Enzo and now the injury. He might come back with a little extra steam away from Ezno & Show. Working with Cena is garbage these days? Big Show is garbage? Ok so Show isn't a huge name but he certainly isn't garbage!
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Post by groovyphoenix on Aug 23, 2017 13:16:46 GMT -5
I think it could make a difference. First, he got quite a big pop on the show. It's good for him and for 205 live. Bringing wrestlers with good mic skills is what the show needs. Exactly, cruiserweights just like ladies wrestling is more niche, you need to like speed and skill but most times these guys aren't huge on the entertaining/promo aspect. Add to that I think they ship the shitty writters down there as punishment and you got 205 Snooze... Man Enzo came in and exactly the crowd went nuts, did the schtick with him and had fun. Neville looked totally offended which is great, he's had NO ONE to play heel for and Enzo will certainly provide that for him. I seriously don't think Enzo in 205 is punishment to me its more a promotion, "Here we'l get behind you but you need to work with this for us." and if Enzo is smart he'll step up to the challenge because HHH just hired a boatload of lighter guys for NxT that will have to go somewhere or be lost in the shuffle.
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Post by deezy on Aug 23, 2017 16:56:08 GMT -5
So we complain that 205 Live have no character.....they get one guy that literally oozes character and it's "well won't make me watch"....so why even bother having an opinion on it? If you don't care....why waste time saying so?
I don't like Enzo. ..I'm using his tear face as an av ironically. But I'm not going to pretend this division doesn't need him. Everyone under the cruiserweight banner can't cut decent promos....can we stop pretending it's because of creative. Even without them...these guys would he floundering in the promo department.
Cass's injury can be seen as a positive for him to rehab himself and his character. This Enzo breakup hasn't helped him either....I soured on him because he let his physique go...I'm hoping he can come back bigger and stronger.
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Post by thebenjamin on Aug 23, 2017 17:30:42 GMT -5
Enzo has been booked as a joke who cant wrestle, is annoying and never wins. So why should anyone care about him now that he's on 205 Live???
With all the budget cuts, I'd be stunned if that show is even around by next year.
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Post by deezy on Aug 23, 2017 18:28:47 GMT -5
Fire everyone I don't like.....then pretend they dropped the ball on so and so afterwards.
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Post by Christian Small on Aug 24, 2017 12:01:30 GMT -5
It makes sense for him to go there but like it's been mentioned it probably won't make a difference. On the plus side he likely won't be working in front of silence like most cruiserweights are doing right now. Cass has shown some potential as a heel but he's been given garbage to work with since splitting from Enzo and now the injury. He might come back with a little extra steam away from Ezno & Show. Working with Cena is garbage these days? Big Show is garbage? Ok so Show isn't a huge name but he certainly isn't garbage! I must have missed that Cena/Cass feud after he turned heel. I was speaking more of the overall booking of him.
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Post by sluggo on Aug 24, 2017 16:08:00 GMT -5
If WWE want to make their Cruiser Weight Belt a meaningful championship there is 3 things they need to do.
1) Change up Raw and Smackdown to better utilize the belt. The WWE Heavy Weight Belt should be moved to Raw, and the Universal Belt to Smackdown. Raw would then have two weight divisions while Smackdown would have 1 open weight division.
2) They need to actually have their top cruiser weights compete for the championship. The guys they have on 205 Live and Raw now are talented, but no one cars about them. Finn Balor has been doing nothing since returning from injury. Balor is listed at 190 lbs, he should be the one feuding with Neville for the championship. Other wrestlers like - Gargano, Ciampa, Aleister Black, Itami, Fish, Cole and O'Reilly - who are popular, have personality and already viewed (at least by smart and NXT fans) as good legit talent should be inserted into the Cruiser weight Division. Giving the belt to Balor, one of their biggest most popular star's who is capable of main eventing (or at least co-maineventing) a PPV would give the belt some meaning, some legitmacy, would stop it being viewed as a "pre-show" title etc... And with guys like the ones I named competiting with him and each other for the belt.......many fans would start paying attention. Putting Enzo there........isn't going to help.
Hell, I might go so far as to move all the "heavy weight" tag teams to Smackdown and turn the Raw Tag Belts into a cruiser weight belt as well.
3) They need to let these guys go a little. Even with the bigger names and personalities in the division, the main draw of the Cruiser weights is the matches and what they are capable of doing in the ring - let them show it.
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