pj
Curtain Jerker
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Post by pj on Aug 12, 2017 11:36:20 GMT -5
I don't know what you think about this but I love this theory that John Cena and many others are endorsing on heels and babyfaces. A heel is a person that is booed by the audience and a face is the one who's cheered. I think it fits the Reigns/Strowman feud to perfection.
Cena said in a interview "I've been a heel ever since the audience started to shout John Cena sucks".
I really like this because I don't want WWE to tell me : this one you have to hate him and this one you have to like him. No thank you, I would like to have a choice.
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Post by rinaldo on Aug 12, 2017 12:30:33 GMT -5
WWE wants you to cheer for Roman Reigns. You don't. They keep building up Reigns as a face. You still don't care. Reigns looks like a dork cutting face promos while getting booed out of the building but WWE won't give up on him because he's the one they chose to take Cena's spot.
Is that supposed to give you a choice?
People hated Rocky Maivia. The WWF took notice and The Rock was born. The Rock was so good a heel that people started cheering for him. The Rock became a face. The fans made him a face.
That's being given a choice.
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Jamie G
Mid-Carder
I was at Summerslam '92
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Post by Jamie G on Aug 12, 2017 13:54:58 GMT -5
Couldn't agree less. I remember HHH saying that if you think Roman is a heel and you boo him then he's a heel.
Absolute shit. They can't push heels and babyfaces properly so they feed us this crap to try and cover their diabolical booking of certain wrestlers.
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deezy
Misawa
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Post by deezy on Aug 12, 2017 17:00:32 GMT -5
What's it even matter....contrarians will keep doing 180s on everyone no matter what side they perform on.
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Post by Christian Small on Aug 13, 2017 7:41:06 GMT -5
As long as there is a reaction why does it matter. The worse thing a wrestler can get is silence. I won't lie that it helps when you can get a crowd to cheer & boo who you want but it could be worse.
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Post by thebenjamin on Aug 14, 2017 10:49:10 GMT -5
I'd say where it matters is during the babyface comeback and hope spots. If the face isn't getting cheered during those moments it makes the match as a whole incredibly awkward.
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Post by rocketking on Aug 14, 2017 11:52:30 GMT -5
Everybody wants old school heels and babyfaces until a match ends with the heel taking an intentional countout.
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Post by Christian Small on Aug 14, 2017 13:03:27 GMT -5
I'm fine with finishes like that as long as it's not 20/30 minutes in. Those things are fine for TV but I like more on the bigger shows. Although most of what I watch is the indies so I don't come across those kinds of endings often.
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deezy
Misawa
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Post by deezy on Aug 14, 2017 14:24:56 GMT -5
maybe if people didn't blame the company for finishes and put them on the heel ....maybe there would actually be heat in wrestling.
be a mark....it's more fun.
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pj
Curtain Jerker
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Post by pj on Aug 14, 2017 19:00:16 GMT -5
Bryan Alvarez talked about that a few weeks ago and said that WWE is creating more heat than cheers especially with all those ppv finishes. There hasn't been a lot of happy endings. They don't value their babyfaces heroes much.
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deezy
Misawa
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Post by deezy on Aug 15, 2017 0:25:40 GMT -5
Push a babyface and it's all of a sudden "cramming someone down our throats". Anyone looking strong is burying the other talent.
Too many mini Meltzers and not enough fans.
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