Jamie G
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Post by Jamie G on Oct 13, 2016 11:20:09 GMT -5
Plot holes and inconsistencies are a staple of wrestling these days, although it's been going on for years of course.
It's always fun seeing just how bad they can be. Most weekly shows etc have a narrative and mostly consistent characters and stories, but a lot of wrestling doesn't seem to worry about that. There are exceptions of course and I'm mainly looking at WWE as the biggest promotion as a culprit here.
So let's rejoice in plot holes, oversights and just lazy writing in today's product.
First up - how great was Curt Hawkins debut on SD this week? They addressed it in a fallout segment but that's just lazy as hell. The fact that they didn't address is in the main show means they forgot or it shows just how little of a shit they (and us will) give.
Secondly, why have the women "earned" the right to be in a HIAC match? That's not why and how HIAC matches are booked. On the same show where the heel and face teamed up to drop kick Rusev out of the ring. Friends for 5 seconds then back to enemies.
Lastly, if Rollins has been screwed out of the title previously, how does adding Jericho, Owens best friend, to the title match, make it fairer? If Jericho had've been added, it would have essentially been 2 on 1.
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Post by Gee Hall on Oct 13, 2016 12:00:47 GMT -5
Plot holes and inconsistencies are a staple of wrestling these days, although it's been going on for years of course. Secondly, why have the women "earned" the right to be in a HIAC match? That's not why and how HIAC matches are booked. On the same show where the heel and face teamed up to drop kick Rusev out of the ring. Friends for 5 seconds then back to enemies. I don't think that's much of a plot hole, rather just an acknowledgement of the change of philosophy (or presented as such) with women in the main event of shows and PPVs over the last couple years. TBH, I can't recall the last time the use of the cell gimmick was "earned" in the most literal sense of the word. Generally it's just because that's the name of the PPV. The Rusev thing was simply explainable by having a mutual interest and enemy in the sense of his character's sexism. Nothing too complicated to understand there.
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Post by thebenjamin on Oct 13, 2016 12:13:04 GMT -5
The biggest current plot hole is why did HHH help Owens?
It's been almost two months and there has been zero explanation.
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Jamie G
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Post by Jamie G on Oct 13, 2016 12:17:59 GMT -5
Plot holes and inconsistencies are a staple of wrestling these days, although it's been going on for years of course. Secondly, why have the women "earned" the right to be in a HIAC match? That's not why and how HIAC matches are booked. On the same show where the heel and face teamed up to drop kick Rusev out of the ring. Friends for 5 seconds then back to enemies. I don't think that's much of a plot hole, rather just an acknowledgement of the change of philosophy (or presented as such) with women in the main event of shows and PPVs over the last couple years. TBH, I can't recall the last time the use of the cell gimmick was "earned" in the most literal sense of the word. Generally it's just because that's the name of the PPV. The Rusev thing was simply explainable by having a mutual interest and enemy in the sense of his character's sexism. Nothing too complicated to understand there. But in the narrative of the story, the cell is used to settle a feud and keep people, like Dana, out of the match. Foley sold the match like the women had earned it. You don't earn a cell match. In story it's not a privilege! The Rusev thing was dumb. If Charlotte is the heel, she should have walked away. That's what a heel would do, not unite with the face as a show of girl power against sexism. That's ridiculous.
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Jamie G
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Post by Jamie G on Oct 13, 2016 12:19:46 GMT -5
The biggest current plot hole is why did HHH help Owens? It's been almost two months and there has been zero explanation. Yeah absolutely. And they'll address it in 6 months when we don't care anymore, and remind us how stupid it was that they didn't address it 6 months earlier.
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Post by Gee Hall on Oct 13, 2016 13:59:15 GMT -5
I don't think that's much of a plot hole, rather just an acknowledgement of the change of philosophy (or presented as such) with women in the main event of shows and PPVs over the last couple years. TBH, I can't recall the last time the use of the cell gimmick was "earned" in the most literal sense of the word. Generally it's just because that's the name of the PPV. The Rusev thing was simply explainable by having a mutual interest and enemy in the sense of his character's sexism. Nothing too complicated to understand there. But in the narrative of the story, the cell is used to settle a feud and keep people, like Dana, out of the match. Foley sold the match like the women had earned it. You don't earn a cell match. In story it's not a privilege! The Rusev thing was dumb. If Charlotte is the heel, she should have walked away. That's what a heel would do, not unite with the face as a show of girl power against sexism. That's ridiculous. Nah, the Cell used to mean that. Pretty much since it became a themed PPV it's just been used as a gimmick. Being used as a privilege, which is as stupid as it sounds, is more of a reason than we've gotten for many years.
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Post by rocketking on Oct 13, 2016 15:02:37 GMT -5
Can the nWo still challenge for any title at any time?
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Jamie G
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Post by Jamie G on Oct 13, 2016 16:02:16 GMT -5
But in the narrative of the story, the cell is used to settle a feud and keep people, like Dana, out of the match. Foley sold the match like the women had earned it. You don't earn a cell match. In story it's not a privilege! The Rusev thing was dumb. If Charlotte is the heel, she should have walked away. That's what a heel would do, not unite with the face as a show of girl power against sexism. That's ridiculous. Nah, the Cell used to mean that. Pretty much since it became a themed PPV it's just been used as a gimmick. Being used as a privilege, which is as stupid as it sounds, is more of a reason than we've gotten for many years. Yeah I guess a stupid reason is better than none at all! It comes back to the whole issue of nothing meaning anything anymore because they don't know how to protect it.
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Post by Jamie G on Oct 14, 2016 6:50:50 GMT -5
I can't wait to see what explanation is given for Kane disappearing.
Did we find out how Bray escaped the room he was trapped in?
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Post by rinaldo on Oct 15, 2016 0:11:37 GMT -5
I liked Bray better when he was a Waylon Mercy/Cape Fear kinda heel instead of being a fat, uninteresting version of the Undertaker.
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Post by quadrupleh on Oct 25, 2016 21:07:31 GMT -5
Rollins keeps talking about burning the WWE to the ground, If he does this, where will he work? Does he plan to go back to Ring of Honor?
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Post by rinaldo on Oct 27, 2016 12:46:36 GMT -5
He sure won't have a career in porn...
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Post by rocketking on Feb 9, 2017 9:47:58 GMT -5
I've got some random WWE Network in the background while I get snowed in today. They were going over the Luger/Hart/Yokozuna deal from Wrestlemania X and I noticed something that never dawned on me before.
Why did the winner of the coin toss (Lex) get to fight Yokozuna first at Mania? Wouldn't the winner want to go second? Sure, ultimately Bret also had to wrestle two matches, but he didn't have to win twice. Bret was able to lose to Owen and still get his title shot. Meanwhile, Lex would have had to beat Yokozuna AND beat Bret to walk away with the strap. For that matter, why did Yokozuna get put in a less favorable position than Bret in this whole deal?
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Post by Christian Small on Feb 9, 2017 12:08:56 GMT -5
I've got some random WWE Network in the background while I get snowed in today. They were going over the Luger/Hart/Yokozuna deal from Wrestlemania X and I noticed something that never dawned on me before. Why did the winner of the coin toss (Lex) get to fight Yokozuna first at Mania? Wouldn't the winner want to go second? Sure, ultimately Bret also had to wrestle two matches, but he didn't have to win twice. Bret was able to lose to Owen and still get his title shot. Meanwhile, Lex would have had to beat Yokozuna AND beat Bret to walk away with the strap. For that matter, why did Yokozuna get put in a less favorable position than Bret in this whole deal? It was a case that regardless everyone was going to work twice. If Bret had won then Luger would have had a match with Crush before his title match. The theory was also that they wanted to go in at 100% and go on to face someone who has also wrestled earlier. It could have also been a confidence thing, Luger felt that he could obviously beat Yoko one-on-one considering he won via count out at Summerslam the previous year and probably felt he could beat Bret since Bret lost the title to Yoko.
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Post by rinaldo on Feb 17, 2017 13:16:36 GMT -5
THe non kayfabe reason being no one wanted to see luger wrestle twice on the same night, of course.
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