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Post by john casey on Feb 9, 2016 18:07:20 GMT -5
Often there is a debate whether a Wrestling promotion should change storylines and/or change results if it is deemed to be too predictable. While I can understand why you wouldn't change things in order to get to any pay offs to angles and big matches but at the minute it seems that it's getting too predictable?
For example at this years Royal Rumble (while it was a good match) you was just waiting for Triple H to show up. Regarding the Triple Threat match at Fast Line, you know that there is a very strong possibility of the Wyatts showing up therefore you know that the match won't be ending until they turn up.
Maybe companies should be thinking of different ways to get to the desired conclusions of their angles?
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Post by deezy on Feb 9, 2016 20:48:22 GMT -5
Predictability isn't a bad thing.....spoiler alert, the good guys always win.
Duh.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 22:15:05 GMT -5
Predictability isn't a bad thing.....spoiler alert, the good guys always win. Duh. Not in WWE. They do in NXT.
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Post by deezy on Feb 9, 2016 23:17:09 GMT -5
Predictability isn't a bad thing.....spoiler alert, the good guys always win. Duh. Not in WWE. They do in NXT. Good guys always win in the end, no matter what the narrative, movies, books, comics, videogames and what not.
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Post by RKing85 on Feb 9, 2016 23:46:47 GMT -5
The good guy didn't win in the Karate Kid. Daniel won the final fight.
(Seriously, watch that movie again. Daniel is the biggest dick in the world and Johnny gets sympathy)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 0:56:12 GMT -5
Not in WWE. They do in NXT. Good guys always win in the end, no matter what the narrative, movies, books, comics, videogames and what not.
But wrestling goes on forever so there is no end. A bad guy will top the good guy and the good guy will top a bad guy at WrestleMania. So it is done. So let it be written. Ahmen.
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Post by deezy on Feb 10, 2016 1:32:13 GMT -5
The good guy didn't win in the Karate Kid. Daniel won the final fight. (Seriously, watch that movie again. Daniel is the biggest dick in the world and Johnny gets sympathy) Hes the Jason Todd to Miyagi's Batman. Nobody liked Jason Todd either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 6:14:24 GMT -5
The good guy didn't win in the Karate Kid. Daniel won the final fight. (Seriously, watch that movie again. Daniel is the biggest dick in the world and Johnny gets sympathy) Hes the Jason Todd to Miyagi's Batman. Nobody liked Jason Todd either. Wasn't there a contest that he won to die?
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Post by Mark613 on Feb 10, 2016 8:39:43 GMT -5
Predictability isn't a bad thing.....spoiler alert, the good guys always win. Duh. Predictability is a very bad thing when WWE (for this discussion,) have roughly 30+ hours a month of first run television a month. If you want an audience to be invested week after week, show after show, you need to keep things interesting. When the entire audience is a few steps ahead of the story, why keep watching?
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Post by Christian Small on Feb 10, 2016 10:22:34 GMT -5
I can't stand it when companies change their booking because "We can see the result coming". I'm more for predictability if the result is a story that makes sense. Look at this past year with Roman Reigns. He was the pick for Money in the Bank for most, they went with Sheamus just because he wasn't Roman. Roman was the guy who should have won the title tournament and been champ, again they have Sheamus cash in just because many picked Roman to win. Did this help Sheamus? Not one bit, I'd say he is worse off now then he was before. Having said this I remember a story Lance Storm told about Paul Heyman's booking in ECW and Paul saying "I may have planned to go one way but looks like we're going another way". You do need to be open and willing to change your plans if they're not working.
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Post by Mark613 on Feb 10, 2016 10:31:29 GMT -5
I can't stand it when companies change their booking because "We can see the result coming". I'm more for predictability if the result is a story that makes sense. Look at this past year with Roman Reigns. He was the pick for Money in the Bank for most, they went with Sheamus just because he wasn't Roman. Roman was the guy who should have won the title tournament and been champ, again they have Sheamus cash in just because many picked Roman to win. Did this help Sheamus? Not one bit, I'd say he is worse off now then he was before. Having said this I remember a story Lance Storm told about Paul Heyman's booking in ECW and Paul saying "I may have planned to go one way but looks like we're going another way". You do need to be open and willing to change your plans if they're not working. I'm not against logical storytelling - but I don't think that you can't be unpredictable, and not follow logic. Change for no other reason, than for sake of change, isn't always good. Just be logical, and be open to organic opportunities that present themselves.
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Post by Christian Small on Feb 10, 2016 10:50:54 GMT -5
I can't stand it when companies change their booking because "We can see the result coming". I'm more for predictability if the result is a story that makes sense. Look at this past year with Roman Reigns. He was the pick for Money in the Bank for most, they went with Sheamus just because he wasn't Roman. Roman was the guy who should have won the title tournament and been champ, again they have Sheamus cash in just because many picked Roman to win. Did this help Sheamus? Not one bit, I'd say he is worse off now then he was before. Having said this I remember a story Lance Storm told about Paul Heyman's booking in ECW and Paul saying "I may have planned to go one way but looks like we're going another way". You do need to be open and willing to change your plans if they're not working. I'm not against logical storytelling - but I don't think that you can't be unpredictable, and not follow logic. Change for no other reason, than for sake of change, isn't always good. Just be logical, and be open to organic opportunities that present themselves. I'm not saying that. I agree with you, there's nothing wrong with unpredictability as long as it can follow an overall story. The examples I gave didn't have any overall story and was done just to mess with the fans.
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Post by deezy on Feb 10, 2016 14:27:36 GMT -5
Ugh, over thinking yourself into Russo territory is the reason why people every wrestling product has illogical booking.
The audience isn't as smart as they think they are, they are just hindsight heroes who act like they know everything.
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Post by Milky on Feb 10, 2016 14:40:26 GMT -5
Good guys don't always win.
Sting never won in the WWE.
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Post by rinaldo on Feb 10, 2016 14:59:46 GMT -5
He got to keep the Crow look for years without getting sued by the Crow francise and/or Alice Cooper. If that's not winning, bro...
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