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Post by deezy on Jun 3, 2015 21:13:16 GMT -5
Not everyone is Sasha Banks or Charlotte.
Becky Lynch sold well, that was her entire role in the match that stole the show. Emma and Bayley are vastly overrated.
The chances were given to those women though, which were not given to the likes of the Bella's. So transparent, Nikki being one if the most improved women on the roster athletically, mechanically and physically and yet noone gives her anything but utter contempt.
And yet it's "push Paige and Naomi!!!" even though they botch more than the shitty 2 minute divas do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2015 7:13:01 GMT -5
Sasha Banks is vastly overrated. I think Emma and Bayley are so not talked about they're underrated, but I don't care about either. Nikki is improved, enhanced, bigger, better and with a company man that teaches her wrestling moves when he can. No one cares about anyone at the top of their division unless its some neckbeard.
The NXT divas might be as botch heavy when they get to the big stage. I don't remember Paige being botch heavy back then, but there's probably a video to disprove me.
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Post by Zekey on Jun 6, 2015 19:41:07 GMT -5
I notice anytime anybody has something nice to say about Nicki, they say "She's improved". Yes, going from bad to below average is an improvement. Agnew likes to call the bella's the cancer I also take that position. Deezy next time she's on the mic count how much times she says "you know what..." before starting sentences.
Sasha Banks has classic matches on TakeOvers. She is Mrs TakeOver!!! When she wrestles I don't even consider her stealing the show. She already is my main event. She's gonna land somewhere good on the PWI 500. She's a black wrestler who plays a black character and its not racially offensive. That's never been done ppl.
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Post by deezy on Jun 7, 2015 0:16:07 GMT -5
So just admit there is a bias on that entire give Divas a chance shit....not everyone should get a chance right? Bella's being a cancer was already made before they even had a chance to prove themselves. And to act like Nikki isn't good is just blatant bias.
The simple fact you actually dissect her promos shows how far you go to shit on her. Sure does infinitely better promos than miss "This is my house" Paige who makes Neville look like The Rock in comparison.
And since when is calling someone improved a bad thing? Is everyone supposed to be great when they start out? Get real. She has only really been working the past 2 years and had a significant injury during that. But somehow we're supposed to forget an pretend that she sucks because she sucks Cena right?
A cancer? That was the Mowgli looking AJ who killed that division by being the champ for a year and always in the mix for 2.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 1:22:39 GMT -5
Niki is better than Lita and on par with Trish, the most overrated female wrestler. That's an unpopular thing to say, but the only thing she did that was special is sex scream for everything.
A lot of women's wrestling is garbage, but people accept it because they're hot. Niki just must not be hot enough for the haters. Is it cuz she's latin or Italian or whatever she is?
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Post by deezy on Jun 7, 2015 3:26:39 GMT -5
The transparent bias against anyone who looks like the evil WWE machine is behind is always going to never get their due. I can remember when smarks would shit on Kelly Kelly for running ropes even if they could never hit them right let alone bounce off them better than she could.
Did Kelly Kelly suck? Compared to who? Sure was a step above other Diva Search recruits during the time. I love this double standard when it comes to people with minimal experience having to be on a fast learning curve because there are others on the roster with more experience.
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Post by Zekey on Jun 7, 2015 4:43:15 GMT -5
Deezy you always enter these threads with the mentality of "What is the popular smark opinion, I believe in the complete opposite"
I analyzed Nicki Bella because I WAS giving her a chance. A couple months back when the girls were getting time she never had a memorable match. I can point at 2 Paige matches on NXT that stand out to me. The inaugural nxt championship finals & NXT arrival. Both against Emma, who is another capable wrestler. When Paige gets time on the mic she sounds 100% competent. Which is all I ask for from WWE superstars in 2015.
What I mean by Nicki Bella has improved is: She was a 1 out of 10 performer. Today she is a 4 out of 10 performer. Dude, she goes into a rest holds 1 minute into a match.... that lasts 3 minutes.
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Post by Milky on Jun 7, 2015 6:41:02 GMT -5
Niki is better than Lita and on par with Trish, the most overrated female wrestler. That's an unpopular thing to say, but the only thing she did that was special is sex scream for everything. I think that's an unpopular thing to say because it's not true. Whatever your opinion of Trish Stratus is, you can't deny that she main evented RAW with a competitive match that meant something, captivated audiences with the storylines she was in, and had a MOTN contender on a WrestleMania card. Until Nikki Bella accomplishes all of those things there is simply no grounds for comparison.
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Post by deezy on Jun 7, 2015 11:56:57 GMT -5
Deezy you always enter these threads with the mentality of "What is the popular smark opinion, I believe in the complete opposite" I analyzed Nicki Bella because I WAS giving her a chance. A couple months back when the girls were getting time she never had a memorable match. I can point at 2 Paige matches on NXT that stand out to me. The inaugural nxt championship finals & NXT arrival. Both against Emma, who is another capable wrestler. When Paige gets time on the mic she sounds 100% competent. Which is all I ask for from WWE superstars in 2015. What I mean by Nicki Bella has improved is: She was a 1 out of 10 performer. Today she is a 4 out of 10 performer. Dude, she goes into a rest holds 1 minute into a match.... that lasts 3 minutes. Because I don't follow the narrative of online doctrine, that makes me an anti-smark contrarian? I love that mentality. "He don't agree with me, obviously trolling". "Think like the rest of us you sheep". Because god forbid I would actually enjoy watching Nikki Bella Rack Attack girls than watching Paige spam superkicks and almost killing girls with a half assed superplex. The fact that you say Paige sounds competent on the mic shows your bias. Just because she is second generation doesn't mean she is automatically this great and accomplished wrestler. In fact, she is dull, monotonous and sounds like a shy kid reading a story aloud in class. And also, chin locks and armbars are not restholds, they are offensive moves and only video game loving marks who think Youngbucks can work think that way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 12:57:06 GMT -5
Main evented RAW with the boss's daughter. End of discussion. Ha RAW? Niki Bella has her own show! If she hasn't captivated audiences, that show would be canceled. Maybe you'll get your wish and see Niki Bella main event RAW against Steph. It can be the Total Diva's finale.
Test has main evented RAW. A Val Venis angle has main evented RAW. Trish was pretty shit when she started out too.
I'm with Deezy, dude is the realest person on here that thinks outside the box. Points out stuff like how wrestling fans are bums and can't afford anything but Stridex and Tostino's pizza rolls.
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Post by thebenjamin on Jun 7, 2015 13:11:12 GMT -5
Nikki's a passable worker and has improved but here's why she's nowhere near Trish or Lita - she gets zero reaction. The crowd sits on their hands for her entire match. Now that might be due to her being booked as face/heel back and forth so many times but people actually cared about Trish and Lita.
The majority of the main roster divas suck on the mic and I dont think Nikki is any worse than Paige, Alicia, whoever.
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Post by deezy on Jun 7, 2015 13:22:05 GMT -5
Raw crowds pop more for that "you can look but you can't touch...." Theme than they do for any other women on the main roster.
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Post by thebenjamin on Jun 7, 2015 13:37:47 GMT -5
RAW crowds also pop for Adam Rose's entrance, doesnt mean much. The second the bell rings no one cares. She's John Cena's GF, you would think she could exert a little control over her character.
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Post by deezy on Jun 7, 2015 14:06:28 GMT -5
She's a pampered bitch who cares about her family and friends....where's the lack of character control?
Divas have no heel/face. It's all that shade of grey.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 14:42:16 GMT -5
I forgot Kelly Kelly even wrestled.
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