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Post by TolerancEJ on Aug 26, 2014 15:20:24 GMT -5
I had a thought concerning all the recent signings in WWE Developmental/NXT. The WrestleMania 31 planning committee already established that no other wrestling organizations may perform nearby. (I read a few orgs slipped through the cracks & have confirmed venues.)
This is only a thought/guess, but I was wondering if they estimated that independent orgs would probably still set up programs outside the city, beyond their established perimeter. I wonder if some variation of my imagined conversation took place:
Vince: “Who on the independents is hot and would be worthwhile for fans to drive outside of the city to join their show?”
Various around the table list Kevin Steen, KENTA, Prince Devitt, Willie Mack, etc.
Vince: “Triple H, sign them to NXT to get them out of our hair.”
Triple H: “I’ll get on it.”
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Post by wigsf3 on Aug 26, 2014 15:44:56 GMT -5
How much money does the WWE think they lose by having indies nearby on Mania week?
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Post by TolerancEJ on Aug 26, 2014 15:54:53 GMT -5
How much money does the WWE think they lose by having indies nearby on Mania week? True. It was just a thought to generate discussion. |
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Post by bitetheasp on Aug 26, 2014 16:44:16 GMT -5
I don't see it. Fun to speculate, though.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 19:29:40 GMT -5
There are factual errors in OP's post in addition to suggestions that aren't cost effective at all for WWE.
Short answer: No, that is not a realistic reason behind WWE's recent talent acquisitions.
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Post by RKing85 on Aug 26, 2014 22:55:59 GMT -5
the problem the WWE had last year was that Wrestlecon was literally right across the street from Fan Axxess.
WNW Live (Evolve/DG USA/etc) have gotten a spot pretty close to Mania this upcoming year. Wrestlecon has a venue but it is further away. And apparently ROH is still on the hunt for a venue.
So it looks like it will be a full indy schedule Mania weekend regardless of the WWE's best efforts.
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Post by groovyphoenix on Aug 26, 2014 23:15:53 GMT -5
I'm curious where did you read about this "no other wrestling venues" would occur? To my knowledge WWE might have "some" pull but they certainly can't stop venues from being booked. I'd love to see this article you read/source for this information?
As for your theory they signed up talent etc. In a Kevin Steen Shoot interview Kevin did mention that WWe did contact him previously but they felt he did not have the "look" and would need to slim down etc, I guess they revised their stances since the guy is hired obviously but guys like Wyatt and Bo Dallas and a few other wrestlers there don't sport the "muscle bound" look either.
I would not say your idea had much credence however as to why they signed indy Talent, Vince and I will say HHH have been known to take a chance on indy wrestlers, look at Daniel Bryan and Cm Punk, they went from being known to being in the stratusphere of famous with WWE I'm sure Vinnie's wallet was not hurt by taking those chances at all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 23:48:07 GMT -5
I'm curious where did you read about this "no other wrestling venues" would occur? To my knowledge WWE might have "some" pull but they certainly can't stop venues from being booked. I'd love to see this article you read/source for this information? The OP's misinterpretation of WWE's arrangements in Silicon Valley are the factual errors I was referring to. WWE was able to cut a deal with local government officials as part of the bidding process for WM31 where city-owned buildings would not be rented out to any outside companies during Mania week. They worked out a similar deal with their corporate partners in the area, so that certain hotels won't be renting any space to indie promotions, WrestleCon, etc. Considering how coveted WM has become for cities due to the economic impact for the local economy and the nonstop touring nature of the company, it was most likely very easy for WWE to leverage both of these deals. This has been covered in various updates/newsletters in addition to promoters speaking out about it publicly as well. That said, to say that WWE has "established that no other wrestling organizations may perform nearby" is completely false, as is the notion that there will be some kind of "established perimeter". It's not just semantics-- it's two completely different scenarios. No promoters "slipped through the cracks" to book venues near Levi's Stadium, either. All they did was find a private building that was not in a corporate relationship with the WWE-- basically, they performed a Google search and made a phone call. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 7:40:14 GMT -5
How much money does the WWE think they lose by having indies nearby on Mania week? lol $0. I see the WWE not allowing indies in the same area because it confuses idiots buying tickets that don't know the difference between WrestleMania and ROH. Then they complain to the WWE. |
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Post by chrisarrant on Aug 27, 2014 7:48:15 GMT -5
I had a thought concerning all the recent signings in WWE Developmental/NXT. The WrestleMania 31 planning committee already established that no other wrestling organizations may perform nearby. (I read a few orgs slipped through the cracks & have confirmed venues.) This is only a thought/guess, but I was wondering if they estimated that independent orgs would probably still set up programs outside the city, beyond their established perimeter. I wonder if some variation of my imagined conversation took place: Vince: “Who on the independents is hot and would be worthwhile for fans to drive outside of the city to join their show?” Various around the table list Kevin Steen, KENTA, Prince Devitt, Willie Mack, etc. Vince: “Triple H, sign them to NXT to get them out of our hair.” Triple H: “I’ll get on it.” I highly doubt that. If you've been paying attention, WWE is in cost-cutting mode on talent, so hiring independent wrestlers to somehow damage potential wrestling shows in the vicinity of Wrestlemania is illogical. WWE has hired top indie talent before, and they continue to do it today. The nearby WM events by 3rd party promotions wouldn't even enter into the picture. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 13:16:20 GMT -5
Yup. It would not make sense to sign top free agents and have them on the payroll for nearly a year before WM31 as a preemptive strike against any independent shows that may book them during WM weekend.
This is a company trying to slash tens of millions from their budget. The last thing they would do is sign guys like Kenta and Devitt (who definitely did not sign for peanuts) just to keep them from performing at some indie shows.
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Post by RKing85 on Aug 27, 2014 23:18:31 GMT -5
I definitly have seen on message boards people who say they wait until they see the indy line-ups before they decide if they are going to go to Mania weekend or not. Not many, and they are the hardest of the hardcores, but if they are telling the truth, then the indy shows might even make the WWE a couple of extra bucks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 5:50:53 GMT -5
WWE knows net fans watch NXT and Main Event. So they fill NXT with net stars and Main Event has a 20 minute match that feels it could be a PPV main event. Swagger vs Del Rio was awesome, so was Kane vs Bryan.
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Post by deezy on Sept 2, 2014 11:31:10 GMT -5
Using all those guys in nXt is also a great carrot to dangle infront of indy fans who would go to other venues instead of WWE events. Monopolize the wrestling audience that congregates that weekend and take the whole pie.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 14:41:00 GMT -5
They have Wrestlemania, that is the whole pie and a pie factory. Saying ROH or any indie takes away from Mania is like saying you're supposed to eat the pie tin too.
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