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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 14:02:45 GMT -5
And he didn't even publicly work for it!
Why is it only Vince Russo can work as a wrestling writer? WWE has plenty of writers that get let go.
I been watching and since the last TNA PPV its been much much better.
Was there ever a time that a wrestling company made enough money to sustain itself just from ticket sales alone?
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Post by HotTakePolice on Jul 30, 2014 14:22:16 GMT -5
I just don't get how people can claim that TNA has been getting better as of late with these NYC shows and then claim that it's all Russo's fault that their deal is allegedly not getting renewed. It just seems kind of backwards that since his involvement has been rumored people say impact has gotten better, then turn around and claim it's entirely his fault.
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Post by RKing85 on Jul 30, 2014 22:39:57 GMT -5
If TNA does go under, I will put more blame on Dixie than I will on Russo. Russo obviously played a big part in it, but Dixie was an incompetent owner.
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Post by Jack Raines on Jul 31, 2014 4:26:22 GMT -5
I just don't get how people can claim that TNA has been getting better as of late with these NYC shows and then claim that it's all Russo's fault that their deal is allegedly not getting renewed. It just seems kind of backwards that since his involvement has been rumored people say impact has gotten better, then turn around and claim it's entirely his fault. People are blaming Russo for Spike not renewing Impact because Spike execs had explicitly requested for TNA never to re-hire Russo. But Dixie re-hired him anyway and tried to keep it on the down-low until he accidentally sent an email to Mike Johnson from PWInsider. Spike apparently saw that as unacceptable. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 6:40:36 GMT -5
I blame Dixie, the head of the snake controls the body.
I hope Jeff Jarrett can swoop into Spike and say for $1 million and the same time slot, I can fill those 2 hours and get you 1.0s instead of $10 million. Jarret would then probably bring in Russo and D-Lo Brown and Spike would say 1/10th the price, that's all that matters, happy to have you aboard Mr. Russo.
It doesn't matter what wrestling is on in that time slot, people will still watch.
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Post by wigsf3 on Jul 31, 2014 6:48:01 GMT -5
I still don't understand why Spike dislikes Vince Russo.
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Post by Rob Tonkinson on Jul 31, 2014 8:37:06 GMT -5
Although it was pretty clueless of him to send the e-mail to pin the entire blame on him for the potential death of TNA is a bit unfair.
If TNA were told not to employ him, it's not his fault if he gets employed by TNA, that's the managements issue.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 16:15:36 GMT -5
I still don't understand why Spike dislikes Vince Russo. Its just a way out. I still don't understand why Vince Russo is the only guy that can do this job. |
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Post by Jay on Jul 31, 2014 19:40:08 GMT -5
I still don't understand why Spike dislikes Vince Russo. Its just a way out. I still don't understand why Vince Russo is the only guy that can do this job. My guess would be, Russo built a reputation through out the years going back to The Attitude Era and probably pissed off network executives that passed the word around coupled with the fact of just seeing whatever Russo does is crap probably put them all (the execs) on the same side. Anti Russo. |
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Post by Milky on Aug 1, 2014 2:15:58 GMT -5
Its just a way out. I still don't understand why Vince Russo is the only guy that can do this job. My guess would be, Russo built a reputation through out the years going back to The Attitude Era and probably pissed off network executives that passed the word around coupled with the fact of just seeing whatever Russo does is crap probably put them all (the execs) on the same side. Anti Russo. Yeah, this is pretty much it. I think Spike even had to implement the "no male on women violence" rule just to reel in Vince Russo's booking style a bit. Also, Spike were dragging their heels on this deal for quite some time before Russogate exploded, so I don't think he was the sole reason the deal fell through, but it certainly didn't help matters any. |
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Post by thelaw on Aug 1, 2014 4:21:25 GMT -5
I still don't understand why Spike dislikes Vince Russo. Maybe Spike just knows what all wrestling fans already know. |
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Post by chrisarrant on Aug 1, 2014 16:59:15 GMT -5
And he didn't even publicly work for it! Why is it only Vince Russo can work as a wrestling writer? WWE has plenty of writers that get let go. I been watching and since the last TNA PPV its been much much better. Was there ever a time that a wrestling company made enough money to sustain itself just from ticket sales alone? I'll take your questions point by point: Why is it only Vince Russo can work as a wrestling writer?
TNA have hired (and let go) of several ex-WWE writers, from Ed Ferrara to Dave Lagana, Dusty Rhodes, Jim Cornette and others. Russo, for all his faults, has a resume that includes being the lead writer for WWE during the biggest boom in the industry -- the Attitude Era. Again, for all his faults, there's something to that. Was there ever a time that a wrestling company made enough money to sustain itself just from ticket sales alone?
Just ticket sales? Pretty mcuh every wrestling company from the early 1900s until the early 1980s, WWWF/WWF, NWA, AWA, and others included -- they had TV, but they general paid for it as advertising to drive house show events. Nowadays, I'd say everyone except WWE and TNA makes a majority of their money off ticket sales. ROH makes no money off their TV deal, and I doubt makes much on iPPV if the numbers TNA draws for regular PPV is at a loss for them. Evolve and others would assumably be in the same boat. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 10:20:39 GMT -5
There doesn't need to be violence against women, its just a good reason for a face to save a damsel in distress. Man vs Man woman vs woman is still compelling to me and if you need to mix the 2, something failed.
Thanks for the reply Chris and everyone.
Does ROH not get paid because they're owned by the people that own the channel?
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Post by thelaw on Aug 3, 2014 12:20:37 GMT -5
My impression is that Spike's thing against Russo has more to do with his silly booking where too many people change channels as the show progresses rather than any so-called shocking moment that might appear. I doubt Spike would care much if Russo's booking actually lead to peaks in viewership. Instead, his booking makes people cringe and makes the whole promotion a joke in that nobody takes them seriously.
As for the reason why Russo keeps getting hired by TNA, it is clear that Dixie is an easy mark that can get conned easily. If she did not get so easily manipulated, then why would she even take a chance at hiring Russo at contract renewal time knowing very well that for years Spike has been against the promotion using him in a creative position. So, she ends up hiring Russo and lying to her tv partner. That could turn out to be her worst business decision ever if TNA cannot find a new tv contract that pays them Spike-level money.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 14:02:05 GMT -5
I'm not sure if Dixie gets conned so much as everyone gets a try. Good guys, bad guys. Just as long as there's a faction and a heel champion she's happy.
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