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Post by TWF Dave on Apr 18, 2012 15:06:20 GMT -5
I heard John and Wai give their responses to this question on the Wrestle Reunion podcast: As for me, I gave my thoughts on this in a blog I wrote over HERE a while back -The blog was titled "What can Wrestling take from UFC" and features a few other thoughts too, so might be worth a read if you're that way inclined. You can check out the response on TWF HereIn a nutshell though, I think that weight classes would not only freshen the product up but potentially reinvigorate the PPV market too. What are your thoughts?
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Post by RKing85 on Apr 18, 2012 16:18:00 GMT -5
I don't think it would add any interest to me. I don't know if it would hurt, but I don't think it would benefit all that much either. As John said on the podcast, maybe some independent promotion could give it a test run first.
Was it Disco Inferno in WCW who had a gimmick of weighing in for the matches in the Cruiserweight Division?
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Post by Justin Tyler on Apr 18, 2012 16:46:44 GMT -5
I was thinking about this the other day. I think it would/could be a good thing, but it's something that could easily be abused, so therefore, I'd hope they stay away from it.
I remember the Disco Inferno segments where he was making for for cruiserweight. It was actually pretty cool.
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Post by El Peregrino on Apr 18, 2012 17:53:08 GMT -5
With weight classes I think you are diluting the talent pool. Imagine GSP fighting Anderson Silva both at their ideal weight for a championship. Jon Jones v Junior Dos Santos. Even Ronda Rousey v Cyborg. Those would get HUGE PPV buys but it's impossible. With weight classes, matches like Awesome Kong v Gail Kim, Samoa Joe v CM Punk, Shawn Michaels v The Undertaker would be impossible. This is an advantage wrestling has an advantage over MMA in
What WWE needs to do is just stop booking all their big guys as unstoppable monsters and their little guys as underdogs who anytime they win it's an upset. Rey Mysterio, Daniel Bryan, etc. should be able to beat any man of any size and it shouldn't be an issue because they are simply the better wrestler. Instead we get guys like them with two (actually three) of the most pathetic title reigns in history because the WWE was afraid to actually put them over anybody bigger.
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Post by Jason X on Apr 18, 2012 18:26:06 GMT -5
WWE does have weight classes and they go like this
Above 220 LBS: Heavyweight Below 220 LBS: Jobber
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Post by Gerald Sinstad on Apr 18, 2012 18:59:14 GMT -5
I was thinking about this the other day. I think it would/could be a good thing, but it's something that could easily be abused, so therefore, I'd hope they stay away from it. I remember the Disco Inferno segments where he was making for for cruiserweight. It was actually pretty cool. Matt Hardy did it for a little while in the WWE as well.
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Post by dombag85 on Apr 19, 2012 2:07:44 GMT -5
i think about this all the time, i wish wwe would have the patience to have two divisions like njpw... if they ever got over this super body builder bs, all the best matches would be the jr. heavy's or light heavy's whatever the hell you wanna call em' and they could build HUGE angles once a year or less based on a super small guy vs. giant, like big show vs. rey or something... once can dream
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Post by Justin Tyler on Apr 19, 2012 8:56:30 GMT -5
With weight classes I think you are diluting the talent pool. Imagine GSP fighting Anderson Silva both at their ideal weight for a championship. Jon Jones v Junior Dos Santos. Even Ronda Rousey v Cyborg. Those would get HUGE PPV buys but it's impossible.. I agree with you to some extent on that. But that gives another thing to think about. If GSP and Anderson Silva were in the same weight class, they more than likely would have fought a LONG time ago in a fight that wouldn't have been nearly as big as it would be today. These two being held apart for so long is what makes it special. I think that could be what WWE could use now. The build-ups and super fights could be awesome. BUT like I said in my earlier post, I think they would find a way to ruin it so scrap the whole idea until they get some genuinely good writers that can make it work.
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Post by El Peregrino on Apr 19, 2012 17:50:01 GMT -5
With weight classes I think you are diluting the talent pool. Imagine GSP fighting Anderson Silva both at their ideal weight for a championship. Jon Jones v Junior Dos Santos. Even Ronda Rousey v Cyborg. Those would get HUGE PPV buys but it's impossible.. I agree with you to some extent on that. But that gives another thing to think about. If GSP and Anderson Silva were in the same weight class, they more than likely would have fought a LONG time ago in a fight that wouldn't have been nearly as big as it would be today. These two being held apart for so long is what makes it special. I think that could be what WWE could use now. The build-ups and super fights could be awesome. This is a good point you bring up. But this isn't an issue of weight classes, it's an issue with WWE booking. Just because two guys are in the same division in wrestling (the way everyone is right now), doesn't mean you can't keep them apart for an extended period of time and build up a match over time. Ring of Honor is doing this right now with Davey Richards and Kevin Steen which is a match 2+ years in the making. Hell, it should be even easier for the WWE because they have two belts. If they had continued to build up Mark Henry as a monster on Smackdown or Daniel Bryan as a guy who makes everyone tap out, and kept them away from RAW where CM Punk was beating everyone he was faced, they could've had a HUGE match. Instead they just don't know how to build guys up in a manner the fans want to see. WWE doesn't need weight divisions, they need more competent bookers,
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Post by Irwin R Schyster on Apr 21, 2012 22:45:13 GMT -5
I heard John and Wai give their responses to this question on the Wrestle Reunion podcast: As for me, I gave my thoughts on this in a blog I wrote over HERE a while back -The blog was titled "What can Wrestling take from UFC" and features a few other thoughts too, so might be worth a read if you're that way inclined. You can check out the response on TWF HereIn a nutshell though, I think that weight classes would not only freshen the product up but potentially reinvigorate the PPV market too. What are your thoughts? Awesome Dave! Thanks for making me not feel so crazy for that idea, For me a Championship Title should be incredibly Important, and even though we have a lot of titles right now, they dont mean anything to anyone, it would be a great way to bring some respect back to the titles.
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Post by dombag85 on Apr 22, 2012 3:00:36 GMT -5
I heard John and Wai give their responses to this question on the Wrestle Reunion podcast: As for me, I gave my thoughts on this in a blog I wrote over HERE a while back -The blog was titled "What can Wrestling take from UFC" and features a few other thoughts too, so might be worth a read if you're that way inclined. You can check out the response on TWF HereIn a nutshell though, I think that weight classes would not only freshen the product up but potentially reinvigorate the PPV market too. What are your thoughts? hey dude, killer blog
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