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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 0:30:06 GMT -5
I think that the Miz, Mr Anderson, and Tazz have completely checked out and no longer give a Damn.
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Post by tommylang1630 on Dec 31, 2012 0:34:00 GMT -5
So if the Claire Lynch storyline was that bad (which it was), what does it say that WWE copied it?
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Post by dannyk on Dec 31, 2012 0:42:48 GMT -5
I'd like to officially change my worst dvd and wtf moment to Chyna: Queen Of The Ring.
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Post by T Anthony Auld on Dec 31, 2012 0:56:48 GMT -5
WORST NON-WRESTLING PERFORMER - TOUT! Remember when Sheamus stole Del-Rio's car, then proceeded to post lame tout's of him driving around eating Mexican food and then trash it with his "bowels?"
WORST GIMMICK - TOUT! Creepy late twenties year old men posting 30 second thoughts wearing WWE merch = WWE Universe. It was pointless & was used WAY too much from it's inception.
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Post by T Anthony Auld on Dec 31, 2012 1:49:53 GMT -5
Anyone remember that horrible build up to Punk vs Bryan, with AJ as Special Referee, where AJ was on the top rope, threatening to jump off through a table, which culminated with both Punk & Bryan going through the table?
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Post by kobossy on Dec 31, 2012 2:39:25 GMT -5
My favorite show of the year. I'll end up listening to it several times. However, this year I find that there was a lot more I disagreed with the LAW crew upon.
Here's my picks, for those who care.
WORST WRESTLER (Male)-Brodus Clay. Bad matches, bad gimmick (for God's sake, the guy has no rhythm, why give him a dancing shtick?), he was built up as a monster heel just for us to get a Russo-esque swerve when he debuted as a Kool and the Gang ripoff, he kept getting put over guys like Ziggler and Swagger who are way better in ring than him, and for what? Right after he main evented Raw against Big Show (yeah, that happened), he became jobber extraordinaire. He's the babyface Tensai to combat Dan.
WORST WRESTLER (Female)-can I just pick all of them? If not, Kaitlyn. I can't think of one good thing about her.
WORST TAG TEAM-Team Hell No. I cannot stand these guys. I abhor Daniel Bryan's YES/NO shtick, I think its absolutely dreadful and has made him into this incredibly obnoxious character who generates massive go away heat from me. EVERY time he's on my screen screaming NO at the fans, I change the channel. His character literally IS his catchphrase-there's nothing more to him than that, yet I see no end to people trying to justify it as something great. Bryan is a very good worker, but his current character is garbage. Kane is somewhat better, but that's not saying much. The whole idea behind this team is that they were trying to be Rock n' Sock 2012-the two polar opposites who don't get along, but have to wrestle together. However, between Rock and Mankind, there was this once in a lifetime chemistry that we'll probably not see again. Bryan and Kane come off as incredibly forced and unbelievable, the acting ranges from hammy to downright dreadful and to top it off, they saddle these guys with the gimmick that they argue over who is tag team champions are. Its the sort of humor I'd expect from Dane Cook, trying to appease those without a brain, but I found it insulting, especially when they milked it for all it was worth after 24 HOURS. Then, months later, they're still doing it. Its crap, I hate this team.
WORST ON THE MIC-John Cena. I've taken to literally changing the channel when Cena picks up a microphone. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm an avid Review a Wai/Impact/Raw listener and John said that he hated the Cena LOSER! promo so much that he'd lobby for a 'worst segment of the year' category just so he could nominate that promo (by the way, what happened to that idea? I was looking forward to it). Then there was his Star Wars promo, and his constant ass kissing off the fans by going for the lamest and cheapest of the cheap pops (mentioning the sports teams, speaking French in Montreal, sucking up to Bret and Shawn). And his demeanor is positively shocking. "Hey guys, I just lost my WWE title match *big cheesy grin*, oh well, win some, lose some, am I right?" "Hey Punk, your title reign has been totally irrelevant, even if you don't give me a title shot, I'll just get another one down the line. See you at Night of Champions?" "Oh man, Brock Lesnar just totally kicked my ass. Guys I'm seriously going to have to take some time off, but I want you to know I love all of you, and you guys drive me to be the best in this business. I'll be back tomorrow for Raw." Even his promo wars against Rock were disappointing-remember his empty arena promo that built up the significance of the match at Mania? Later on he comes out grinning like a moron and laughing as Rock threatens to rip his throat out, then makes some horrible joke. I agree that Claire Lynch was atrocious, but I expect that since she's a terrible actress. Cena has proven he's a good promo, but instead of giving us that (you know, what people pay for), he goes out there and half asses it, and to me that's 100 times worse, when you can do a good promo but instead choose not to.
WORST ANNOUNCER-Jerry Lawler. Sorry, but heart attacks don't get you an exemption from my wrath. Yes, Tazz is bad. No arguments there. But Lawler is just...something else entirely. Lawler literally exists to be a joke, either the maker or the brunt of. Tazz contributes nothing, but I find him way easier to tune out, while Jerry is like a siren blaring through the awfulness.
WORST NON-WRESTLING PERFORMER-AJ Lee, hands down. I didn't pick her as worst female wrestler because she doesn't really wrestle. She was put into a position to overshadow Punk and Bryan in their feud, she was made out to be the company whore by flip flopping around with different guys, her GM run was absolutely DREADFUL, since it spawned my worst feud of the year, then we got her love affair with Cena (which was not only bad for every imaginable reason, but the acting and premise were horrifying, it was so bad, and now she's Dolph's love interest. What pisses me off is that not only is she a terrible actress, but unlike Claire Lynch, who thankfully was most often relegated to the mid to upper mid card, AJ Lee was positioned as being ABOVE the main event in a lot of cases. The WWE title wasn't the crux of the Bryan/Punk feud, it was who AJ would eventually decide to side with. Who gives a shit? I certainly didn't. Then the main story of the show was her scandalous affair with the company's #1 guy, which pretty well dwarfed whatever feud existed between Punk and Ryback. And why is this useless woman getting so much attention? To draw in the female demographic, which statistically is not only one of the smaller demos, but has done just fine in the past in the male-centric product. AJ is given entirely way too much attention and everyone knows right off the bat that nothing satisfying will come of it. We won't get an AJ/Cena feud, or AJ/Bryan match, yet we were given those stories, and for what? Absolutely no reason. AJ so far has been given all the heat in this feud with Ziggler. Why not give it to Dolph, since he and Cena will actually wrestle? Sounds like it'd make it pretty good if they did. But no, Ziggler is just the latest love interest while the main heel is someone we won't even get a match out of. Unforgivably bad.
WORST GIMMICK-AJ's crazy gimmick. It really showed how awful an actress she is. On top of that, the Fed couldn't make their damn minds up. First she was crazy, then she wasn't, then she didn't like to be called crazy, then in her affair with Cena, she suddenly wasn't crazy, then they made out, then she was getting clingy, then she's back to crazy again. Let's not mention how this awfulness was shoved into our faces in several high caliber feuds it did NOT belong in.
WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR-Cena/Lesnar from Extreme Rules. Don't care how great the match was, the ending was one of the absolute worst I've ever seen, and a completely inexcusable booking decision in my eyes. Brock not only loses, which is stupid enough, but he loses after taking 2 moves...after DOMINATING for the previous 20 odd minutes. Made Brock look like a chump, took away all his momentum, and basically served as a rehab match for the one guy on the fucking roster who doesn't need one. The win meant so much to Cena that it was mentioned a whopping ONE TIME the next night on Raw. For Lesnar, it could have been his jumping off point into an amazing year. Instead, it was just another pointless notch on Cena's belt that is already fading into distant memory. And Vince wonders why nobody cared about Trips/Brock at Summerslam...
WORST FEUD OF THE YEAR-Honorable mention: Kane vs Cena, and all the lameness that transpired. However, my pick it AJ Lee vs Vickie Guerrero. This was when Vickie was trying to get AJ fired from being the GM and spanned from August into the fall, and then morphed into the AJ scandal. The promos were...ungodly. The acting was otherworldly, it was so awful. It featured more of AJ doing her terrible crazy shtick, and having temper tantrums, and Vickie going to the plot device known as the board of directors to get her reprimanded for doing things a million other authority figures have done in the past...it showed an insulting lack of continuity for their own stupid ideas and respect for the audience.
THEY REALLY DROPPED THE BALL ON...-oh God, this could be its own Observer article. Zack Ryder, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan...still, gotta go with Brock. For a 5 million dollar investment, he was so badly misused its actually amusing. I'd expect this from some of the bookers from the Backyard documentary John and Wai reviewed, but from a company of so called professionals? Embarrassing.
WORST ANGLE-the AJ scandal. Say what you will about how bad Claire Lynch was, but I have no doubt in my mind that Vince saw it on TV and went out of his way to try and do it worse, just so he could. It really says something bad when the WWE is trying to capitalize on one of the angles the opposition JUST used, and its their worst one. Nothing made sense, the acting was truly cringe worthy, we got those sickening make out sessions between John and AJ, and it was all done so they could be a couple for 3 weeks, then have AJ turn on Cena for no reason. Oh no wait, its because she's crazy. So am I, for following this shit.
WORST PAY-PER-VIEW (Wrestling)-gonna go with the 2012 Royal Rumble. The completely wrong person won the Rumble itself, we saw Dolph Ziggler beaten something like 4 times in one match, we got a mighty 12 minute cage match that saw the solid wrestler (aka the champion) have to bump for two giants who aren't good workers, one of which was injured, we got a crummy women's match (what else is new) and the big confrontation building up between Cena and Kane resulted in a DQ (and was poorly worked). Plus, the Rumble itself has to be the worst collection of wrestlers since 1995 (I'd say it was worse than 95). There were 2-3 real contenders and the rest were a bunch of guys who were on the level of "its obvious he's not winning". Makes for a greattttt match.
WORST PAY-PER-VIEW (MMA)-I don't get to watch as much MMA as I'd like, so I can't comment.
WORST PROMOTION-WWE. For a company that has a budget that far outweighs TNA's, I should logically expect a product that is vastly superior. Instead, I see a product, week in, week out, that not only is vastly INFERIOR to TNA in a lot of ways, but that means absolutely nothing, never gets me interested in what's going on, seems sloppily put together and rushed, and worst of all, seems like their focus is in a hundred other places that AREN'T WRESTLING. The military, politics, cancer research, granting wishes to dying children, anti-bullying, advertising, video games, merchandise, public relations and image to the media, Hollywood, film and film making, new television shows, network deals, social media, concerts for bands popular in the 60s, YouTube, the WWE network that we'll never get...they focus so much on all these areas but they can't put out one decent fucking wrestling show, which is the platform that they're BEST KNOWN FOR, and ultimately, that supports their business. That's shameful. Get the blood basics right.
WORST TV SHOW-Raw. I can watch Impact and at least take SOMETHING away from it, and be at least entertained in some form, even if its just one Bully Ray promo. I cannot say the same for Raw. There are weeks at a time when I'll see nothing redeeming or interesting, and in general, its a complete waste of my time. Just look at the Slammy Awards edition of Raw and you'll see why. We got maybe...2 entrances all night, because we had to cram in more commercials! Its gotten to be one big long ad with wrestling breaks.
WORST BOOK-don't really read many of the books. Can't comment.
WORST DVD-The wrestling industry is so bad right now that I refuse to help fund it by buying any of its crappy products.
WORST MIXED MARTIAL ARTIST-see previous MMA category
WORST MMA FIGHT-see above
WTF MOMENT OF THE YEAR-Honorable mention to Hornswoggle as the anonymous GM, since it totally shat on almost 2 years of pro wrestling (not to say that it was good at the time but it had some hope at least...until this past July), but a half naked Michael Cole covered in BBQ sauce getting beaten up by John Cena takes the cake. I thought for a second I had leaned on the remote and accidentally switched to hot oil wrestling between two women, but no. Its an image I won't be able to scrub from my memory any time soon.
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Post by Gee Hall on Dec 31, 2012 4:39:45 GMT -5
Aksana should have swept all categories possible. With Kelly Kelly Kelly Kelly Kelly gone, that's a given.
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Post by carmichael on Dec 31, 2012 12:50:54 GMT -5
Anderson has clearly lost his confidence and thats why hes a very lost performer right now.
I loathe Jason Agnew quite a bit, the man commented on how he thought Velvet Sky wasnt attractive, i mean WTF? thats some pretty misogynistic analysis imo with the way he said it. The bad behavior continued by all of you were burying the actress that played Clare Lynch, joking how she only works as on some ride in disney as if that was beneath you guys? and how she was unprofessional? I mean WHAT THE FUCK, you guys never worked with her and are going off terrible internet news sites
Also on Agnew he gleefully claims he doesnt read books every year, what kind of Moron is this guy?
I am not listening to this particular show anymore. Agnew is too obnoxious.
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Post by Andark on Dec 31, 2012 14:53:04 GMT -5
The WTF Moment Of The Year was clearly the reveal of Mae Young's adult hand son.
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Post by quixote on Dec 31, 2012 23:04:39 GMT -5
Re: Pollocks' (and Wai's) choice on worst wrestler & speaker = The Miz... really?..REALLY? First, I am a Miz fan. get that out of the way. AND the fact of where he was in the last 2 years.
I think you are getting this category confused with 'most disappointing'. I can understand how people dont like where things are gong for a character. And I can understand how someone hates the face gimmick. Everyone prefers a heel for many reasons. But to call him the WORST wrestler? Technically: not worse than Kahli, half the NXT roster, Half the TNA roster. Miz has had some great fights this year, some so-so, etc. but not the worst.
Re: Worst speaker. AGAIN, what about Kahli? Lynch? Brock? Orton is not even a great speaker. Heck if you knew Spanish you would even say that Ridrigez is a bad announcer in his native tongue (he mumbles and mixes up his words during his ADR intro) there are many who they dont even allow to talk.
I get you are not a fan of him. I'm not saying you should be, but I think to call him the "worst" is becoming less critical and more personal. Doesnt bother me when people hate other wrestlers. But if you are going to go on air, I assume there is a door open to respectfully criticize your choice.
Love your show! Love what you guys do. Just dont agree with this one!
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Post by Jay Hunter on Jan 1, 2013 4:18:34 GMT -5
I agree that its technically not accurate, most grating or most stale would be more accurate. I imagine their choice also considers position within the company. Both Orton and Miz are featured every week (when not injured!) but their promos are much lower than the standard of others on their level. You could argue quite well that Miz is now back at Kofi-Kingston level and his promos are just as forgettable, which is a massive, sad drop from main eventing WrestleMania last year. Put it this way, I'd scrutinise the guy who gets 10 minutes every week harder than a backstage segment once every other month!
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Post by Dr Van Nostren on Jan 1, 2013 5:08:34 GMT -5
Listening to the all the archived shows from 2012 and I noticed no one for WTF Moment said Sheamus winning the title in 18 seconds. Multiple people calling on Mania night saying exactly that.
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