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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 11:15:08 GMT -5
Post your feedback for the July 6th 1998 Monday Nitro from the Georgia Dome in Atlanta headlined by Hulk Hogan Vs Bill Goldberg for the WCW Title.
Catch Review-A-Wai later next Wednesday
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Post by Dave B on Oct 20, 2012 13:50:49 GMT -5
Watching on YouTube..about peed my pants laughing at this guy at the end of Pt 2.  |
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Post by cleanfinish on Oct 20, 2012 16:43:58 GMT -5
I remember watching this match when it was on TV live and thinking...."Man Hulk Hogan is really old", it was definitely a highlight match for the days of WCW. I wonder if Vince would ever do a WCW one night stand lol
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Post by Trent Scott on Oct 20, 2012 17:23:04 GMT -5
I was quite excited when I heard this was going to be the next review you guys were going to do, because I remember watching this match as an 8 year old kid completely supporting Goldberg. It still amazes me that this would be the only time Goldberg became WCW Champion. He was so over with the fans, it was almost like Punk at Money in the Bank last year. I was always firmly behind WCW in the Monday Night Wars and watching this gave me a great sense of nostalgia for the good days of WCW as opposed to the Russo clusterfuck that was reviewed a few weeks ago. I definitely wish that WCW was still around today, but it's nice to know how easy it is to pull up the old stuff on YouTube like this.
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Post by Pat from Atlanta on Oct 20, 2012 20:00:19 GMT -5
[Pat from Atlanta]
I was in attendance for this show and it was the most fun and exciting wrestling show I've ever attended. Goldberg was incredibly over with most of the Georgia Dome fans. He had played football for the Georgia Bulldogs and the Atlanta Falcons. This may have been the closest WCW ever came to creating a CM Punk/Money in the Bank moment, though WCW gave it away on live TV with minimal advertising and no build-up.
This Nitro has a mixed legacy. It providing WCW with one of its biggest moments, but it is probably the biggest example of hot-shotting in wrestling history. They could have made huge money having the first Hogan-Goldberg match on PPV.
Since I was part of the exciting atmosphere, I'll give this show 9 Jackhammers out of 10.
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Post by Danny Hernandez on Oct 20, 2012 20:56:52 GMT -5
For the people that say they should have saved the Hogan/Goldberg title match for a PPV well WCW sold 35k tickets on 3 days notice, as the match was announce in Thunder.
I say they made $970K at the gate and equal to that with the Malone/Rodman ppv match that sunday as PPV Buys
I hope when you review this show you see it as a go home show for a PPV.
For a three hour show it didn't seem to drag too much.
Chris Jericho ,JJ Dillion and Deam segment was great
Hogan yelling at the top of his lungs was great
NWO Wolfpac were huge over
Alex Wright and dISCO Inferno tag team
DDP AND Karl Malone promo
The greatest camera angle in the history of wrestling for the jackhammer
I give this show 10 flying toliet papers out of 10
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Post by hawkins on Oct 20, 2012 21:22:09 GMT -5
Hey John and Wai, this match makes me think back to when crowds popped for huge finishes. It was a magic moment when it happened and made me so excited to watch wrestling.
Now if you''ll excuse me I think ADR and Shemus are having their 107th match this year for the world title, I hope it ends with a brouge kick.
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Post by remdog2006 on Oct 21, 2012 1:01:42 GMT -5
I remeber this show. I waited for this night. My nephew and I had a party because we knew this night would be special. That there was no way Goldberg could lose, but also Hogen was going down. The third reason we finally have are JEWISH WORLD CHAMPION. (do not know if he was the first, and Kane would come later). So we MAJORLY MARK OUT
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Post by 666thegame666 on Oct 21, 2012 5:41:11 GMT -5
Corey Ferreira
One of the biggest mistakes WCW made was not doing this match on PPV and giving it away for free on Nitro. To me it shows how scared they were of the WWF beating them in the ratings now when a year earlier they could care less about WWF catching them. As for the actual moment this show is known for. Goldberg was easily the biggest star they had at the time and right on the heels of Austin in terms of biggest wrestling star in the world. Goldberg was made on this night. He beats Hogan in the Georgia Dome in front of a 40,000 strong crowd and wins the World Title only for them to fuck up a sure thing by the start of the next year.
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Post by Milky on Oct 21, 2012 6:55:23 GMT -5
[Alan Laycock]
I remember living in Norway when this Nitro aired live. As you can imagine, professional wrestling is not too big over there (despite THOR'S occasional e-mails) so I remember following the events of this episode online through The LAW's website, which I believe was known back then as Over The Top Rope (though I could be wrong). Anyways, I remember the dirt sheets at the time calling this "Goldberg's biggest challenge to date" and most were skeptical about him going over. I was really into the push, though, and I thought that WCW would pull the trigger. Still, it was surprising that he pinned Hogan clean in less than 10 minutes! A match of this magnitude was usually a 20-30 minute affair, as it still would be today.
This was actually the first time I had ever seen the match but that in itself typifies Goldberg's meteoric rise in popularity. A lot of his legend was built on word-of-mouth and hype. And you could see that even with a slightly over-booked finish that the fans still went mental when he won. Goldberg wasn't just an in-ring talent. He had a whole aura about him that extended well beyond what occurred in the ring.
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Post by thrillho on Oct 21, 2012 8:50:03 GMT -5
Paul Ellett, UK
I always get the feeling that even at it's peak, WCW was never really that huge beyond America, and that the rest of the world was always a WWF territory. Please correct me if I'm wrong from your experience in Canada.
Something which stands out is how a brand with such strong southern elements running through it, was the most popular wrestling company throughout America. WWF/WWE, like most entertainment staples, seemed big-time because of it's northern roots and proximity to New York.
The show's main positive was a packed roster of main eventers like Goldberg, Sting and Hogan, an undercard of solid workers like Jericho and Raven, and those extras you forget were in WCW like Neidhart and Swinger. You can tell how wary WCW were of the TV audience switching channels, by featuring all this talent in short segments, scattering them throughout the show (e.g. Hogan, Goldberg, Jericho, Malenko, DDP and Malone all appearing and re-appearing). Building to later segments also seemed a priority with Hall and Bagwell getting the arriving-at-the-building treatment.
Having Goldberg appear twice and give the audience more of what they wanted seemed to be the company's philosophy, even if they lost out on potential PPV buys. The commentary team and crowd added so much to this main event.
Karl Malone looks like a vertically stretched Cleveland from Family Guy and NWO Wolfpac remains one of the oddest groups in the history of this great sport; no one seemed to have anything in common with each other like Sting bopping to hip-hop music with Konnan just months after Starrcade 97.
6 1/2 out of 10
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Post by wigsf3 on Oct 21, 2012 10:21:21 GMT -5
There were so many little things I completely forgot about WCW in it's heyday: Public Enemy, nWo Sting, Raven's lackey with the sign and Larry Zybysko thinking people actually liked him.
This was a good wrestling show. Today's promotions could learn a thing or two by watching reruns of themselves.
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Post by mattdonnelly on Oct 22, 2012 12:16:35 GMT -5
I wonder if Scott Putski will win the Scott Putski Award
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Post by I WANT CENA PARALYZED! on Oct 22, 2012 22:28:05 GMT -5
Bhavin Patel
Since i have Nitros from 97 til 01 on my hard drive i decided to look this episode up couple weeks back before you guys decided to review it due to the whole Ryback hype. I can't believe Goldberg vs. Hogan was announced on the prior weeks WCW Thunder talk about no build up. A PPV monster match given away for ratings then they never go back to it ever again even when they were trending downward. I didn't want to sit through the entire show so i just watched Goldberg vs. Scott Hall and the main event. The crowd was insane plus Ryback isn't as over as Goldberg was here so he shouldn't win the title at HIAC PPV. Goldberg presence along with the awesome theme sends chills down my spine while Ryback's generic wwe theme brings nothing. Plus what is a WCW show without it ending with trash thrown in the ring even when something good happens. A Great show for the history books from the last great year of WCW. I give it 3/5 Spears to Heather Clem.
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Post by Hacksaw Jim Powers on Oct 23, 2012 4:01:53 GMT -5
Chris in Ottawa
So many memories!
I believe I watched this on a Wednesday at 3 PM after school, since none of us Canadians could see Nitro any earlier than that.
In its heyday, every episode of Nitro kind of seemed the same, from a production standpoint. They fade cut almost always, pan the fans at the beginning of every segment and before and after every match and promo...and everyone cutting a promo in the ring does it to the hard camera! And of course, almost every show ended in a pile of garbage...literally and figuratively.
But thank goodness they had cameras on the crowd so much - otherwise we would’ve missed our friend in the red tanktop. As Schiavone said, that man was pumped up and ready to go.
I always found Marcus Bagwell’s relationship with his mother Judy really, really weird. From her time on WCW television, to JR’s infamous story of how she called him while he was VP of Talent Relations to let him know on her son’s behalf that he wouldn’t be able to make some upcoming dates due to injury. I'm no profiler, but mommy issues are never good...like Norman Bates, or the bad guy with the ponytail in Kindergarten Cop.
Karl Malone’s wingspan is crazy! I think he could touch opposite turnbuckles if he really reached hard enough.
And then Scott Putski shows up dressed like Meatloaf. This isn’t just a great episode of Nitro, it’s a great moment in our lives!
Those Goldberg backstage teasers were fun. Especially when he rammed his head into the door. He may have put his hand out, but that collision was all face. God bless you, Bill Goldberg, and your undying eagerness to injure yourself in stupid ways for us, the fans.
This Nitro wasn't all gravy, though. Much like Goldberg soon after, Sting had gone from headlining Starrcade and being the biggest babyface in the company and perhaps the business, to being an afterthought on this show.
In closing, another WCW staple were entrance themes that were complete ripoffs of huge grunge hits, not the least of which were Raven’s Come As You Are soundalike, DDP’s version of Smells Like Teen Spirit, or Jericho’s Even Flow instrumental. If I might request a song again this week, it would be an original version of a tune from one of Seattle’s best.
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